2025 Athletics Update

Based on Texas Tech’s revenue sharing model, each football player gets $175k a year. Has anyone heard or seen anything from ISU in regards to their plan?
 
Administrators and coaches., “we must pay the players.” Everyone else, “who will pay?” Administrators and coaches, “lol, the fans of course. Only the fans.”
 
I don’t have any inside info, but to those earlier in this thread celebrating that this means we will be near maxing out the $22 million for player salaries, I will be extremely surprised if that is true. The email itself says that it’s also to cover new contracts for Campbell/Otz. We already knew that the athletic department was going to be operating at a significantly lower number than originally planned due to adding the 4 corners Big 12 schools and the lower CFP payouts. That was all BEFORE expenses needed to increase for paying players.

I assume we will be around $10-15 million for player salaries.
Great points on budget deficit from 4C and increased expenses. Travel costs alone have increased, along with other related expenses. The AD isn’t immune from inflation either.
 
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You can purchase tickets by the Sukup area and not make a donation. That is where our tickets are and we do not donate. I suppose we should, but throwing another say $500 in really would not get us much more than our current tickets and purchasing GA parking gets me.
As much as the small guy donating helps, ISU unlike OSU does not have oil money being pumped into the program, those types of donors are the difference between the two programs.
The difference is also having fewer donors. We can’t dismiss this as “poor us”, there is an element to “cheap us”, as well.
 
I had the deer in the headlight moment trying to buy a parking pass for the UCF game this year. It’s tough to justify a week’s worth of groceries for a family of four vs parking your car at a football game for 6 hours. I think many of us would love to continue to support the programs but the price for everything means many can only nibble (1 game a year) and it sucks.
Was this on the secondary market? Grass lot spots are $25. You can also park near campus.
 
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Who else is going to pay?

My guess is Matt and TJ are taking less to help out the AD
What’s the budget? The only option for all of college athletics is spend more/charge more?

Coming soon, we must charge more, we all need rocket ships for each players families game day guests.
 
We are not expecting, nor paying, Ferrari prices. Based on total donors, our AD is out performing the financial support it receives from fans. This is a complicated issue with many variables. I appreciate you digging into some of the details, but it comes down to asking the few for more to cover the many who aren’t participating. The AD isn’t being greedy. They are reducing their budget and raising prices to cover: $22MM for players, extension for CMC and TJ, etc..

Our peers have larger donor bases, as well as some having wealthier donors. That means we need a grassroots effort. Back when A&M was in the B12, they started a grassroots effort: The Century Club. All alumni were encouraged to donate $100 a year to the AD. They donated a ton of money and you saw there Century Club stickers all over south TX. All they got in return was the sticker for pride and to create peer pressure. From there, they grew their donor base and contributions from the infusion of new members and money.

Is your solution to not raise prices and reduce the budget?How would we be able to meet financial obligation to players and coaches. The CC donor number has plateaued and the same donors/ST holders are being asked to help. My ask that more fans find a way to support the AD in any way they comfortably can. It’s not sustainable long term with out growing the donor/ST holders. 11wins and a top 5 MBB seems like a good time to get in and help maintain our overachieving AD.
To be fair my point about the Ferrari price was because I was told to compare MBB prices at Kansas and CU to those at ISU.

I said its hard to compare ISU to KU BB if you dont consider the # of national championships and final 4 runs there to us. I have not looked at KU BB tix for that reason. Which would be like comparing us to a Ferrari being KU basketball.

But I did show that CUs were significantly cheaper even though that poster claimed they werent. Both at the top priced seats and the lowest price seats.

And I believe if you look at some of the best performing FB schools you will find even though they are much higher performing their ticket and donor cost is less. Or at very least similar to ours with a much weaker history.

Our donor base is not more because the history of ISU sports, you can try to price things to compensate for that, but that may come back to bite you. I doubt it will increase our donor base, at least as far as number of donors goes by raising donor prices. We spend a few years with top 5 finishes in football and basketball I am sure the number of donors will increase.

I dont know what the answer is, my point was, our prices are already at or near the top of costs out there, and at some point they are going to price people out. Then our donor base could drop even more and hurt the overall number too.

I gave several examples of our peers in the B12 showing just that we are at or above them in price, and everyone that said I was wrong provided Zero examples.
 
ive said it for years

clone fans would b*itch because the national championship trophy is too heavy.

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Based on Texas Tech’s revenue sharing model, each football player gets $175k a year. Has anyone heard or seen anything from ISU in regards to their plan?
Yes, see first post with letter. Only slightly kidding.
 
To be fair my point about the Ferrari price was because I was told to compare MBB prices at Kansas and CU to those at ISU.

I said its hard to compare ISU to KU BB if you dont consider the # of national championships and final 4 runs there to us. I have not looked at KU BB tix for that reason. Which would be like comparing us to a Ferrari being KU basketball.

But I did show that CUs were significantly cheaper even though that poster claimed they werent. Both at the top priced seats and the lowest price seats.

And I believe if you look at some of the best performing FB schools you will find even though they are much higher performing their ticket and donor cost is less. Or at very least similar to ours with a much weaker history.

Our donor base is not more because the history of ISU sports, you can try to price things to compensate for that, but that may come back to bite you. I doubt it will increase our donor base, at least as far as number of donors goes by raising donor prices. We spend a few years with top 5 finishes in football and basketball I am sure the number of donors will increase.

I dont know what the answer is, my point was, our prices are already at or near the top of costs out there, and at some point they are going to price people out. Then our donor base could drop even more and hurt the overall number too.

I gave several examples of our peers in the B12 showing just that we are at or above them in price, and everyone that said I was wrong provided Zero examples.
The AD isn’t trying to take advantage of anyone, it’s a complicated issue, schools have unique challenges and advantages, comparing prices without a very deep dive into the details and financials is unfair, you don’t have a better solution, I don’t have a better solution, I believe the AD is doing what they think is the most feasible solution, our history is just that, we have been successful for long enough to warrant more support, I accept that I will have to pay more, I am accepting that I wouldn’t be able to count on support from new donors/ST holders, I also wonder how much you’ve deterred some fans from donating or reenforced some fans position to not support the AD. what’s the end goal here?
 
What’s the budget? The only option for all of college athletics is spend more/charge more?

Coming soon, we must charge more, we all need rocket ships for each players families game day guests.
This is part of the problem too.

Increasing costs for an entertainment item both in the form of tix and donations etc, but also in the form of NIL collectives. College football games are very much a discretionary expense, and at some point people will cut the cost.

People complain about paying $5-10 for ESPN+, but paying hundreds even thousands more is just expected to go to a few games.

NIL is supposed to be where businesses etc, pay players for their NIL, for things like advertisements etc. (ie Iowa pork for Bacon)

Instead its become Joe normal fan give money to a collective so we can pay an 18 year old, 10X Joe normal fan's annual salary, to play football a few months a year, all the while giving him free tuition, housing, nutrition, medical etc etc. Oh then after you give him the money he can decide not to play, and then go play somewhere else that offers more.

I get it that we have to do it because everyone else is, that still doesnt make it right or how it should be set up.

I also get that the NFL etc pays millions to their players, but they are not expecting the regular fans to pay that plus their NIL deals they get from businesses (ie Toyota and Purdy) outside the cost of attending games.
 
The AD isn’t trying to take advantage of anyone, it’s a complicated issue, schools have unique challenges and advantages, comparing prices without a very deep dive into the details and financials is unfair, you don’t have a better solution, I don’t have a better solution, I believe the AD is doing what they think is the most feasible solution, our history is just that, we have been successful for long enough to warrant more support, I accept that I will have to pay more, I am accepting that I wouldn’t be able to count on support from new donors/ST holders, I also wonder how much you’ve deterred some fans from donating or reenforced some fans position to not support the AD. what’s the end goal here?
Well my goal was to say we already near the top of the prices when compared to our peers. And that something has to give.

I was then told I was wrong, by people sharing no actual data to prove it, and telling me to prove we are. So I shared several things to show what I was basing my opinion on, all the while those people continued to tell me I was wrong, and not showing anything to prove so.

So the goal turned into dealing we several people including trolls that forced me to continually provide more and more data that reinforces what I was saying.
 
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You’re the one that refuses to prove your assertion because you supposedly did already. It’s not that hard to link your post proving Iowa state has some of the most expensive tickets and donations out of the P4.
I provided Many examples with data to support it.

Where is your proof?

Oh thats right you dont have any.
 
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