Getting the 1 seed for the conference tourney would be sick, but selfishly I'd be quite alright with the 2 or 3 for the sake of me being able to attend the first game in KC
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ISU and Houston look the strongest to my eye for the 4th 1 seed right now.
This year I don't really care about the B12 tournament unless winning it gives us a 1 seed.
I think the committee has shown that conference tournament results don't matter for NCAA seeding. I think it's dumb, but understandable that they basically want to have the draw figured out already.This year I don't really care about the B12 tournament unless winning it gives us a 1 seed.
This year I don't really care about the B12 tournament unless winning it gives us a 1 seed.
IMHO, I cannot understand at all why the conference tournament wouldn't matter. They are literally huddled in a room for 3 straight days. They are not monitoring hundreds of games, they are monitoring a dozens of games, and really not even that many that would have direct "seed line" implications. I just cannot fathom how games actually being played are ignored. It cannot be that hard to move teams a few spots. I understand there are locations involved, rules around conferences being in a the same region, etc. - but again - they are huddled in a room together for multiple days with massive amounts of computing power, AI, algorithms, scenario tracking, teams of support people, etc.I think the committee has shown that conference tournament results don't matter for NCAA seeding. I think it's dumb, but understandable that they basically want to have the draw figured out already.
You give the committee way more credit than they deserve. Mostly, they look at what the idiot Lunardi has to say.IMHO, I cannot understand at all why the conference tournament wouldn't matter. They are literally huddled in a room for 3 straight days. They are not monitoring hundreds of games, they are monitoring a dozens of games, and really not even that many that would have direct "seed line" implications. I just cannot fathom how games actually being played are ignored. It cannot be that hard to move teams a few spots. I understand there are locations involved, rules around conferences being in a the same region, etc. - but again - they are huddled in a room together for multiple days with massive amounts of computing power, AI, algorithms, scenario tracking, teams of support people, etc.
I pretty much agree. I think there's maybe a gray area during those last weekend tournaments. Their bracket by that Friday is probably 99% done...but to me that means if have a lot of 'if X team wins/loses they go here' or 'if x team plays y team and they're both vying for a high seed (like maybe ISU v Houston), then winner gets higher seed'. With data and technology I am sure they have a system almost like a drag and drop based on a few results in those late tournies.IMHO, I cannot understand at all why the conference tournament wouldn't matter. They are literally huddled in a room for 3 straight days. They are not monitoring hundreds of games, they are monitoring a dozens of games, and really not even that many that would have direct "seed line" implications. I just cannot fathom how games actually being played are ignored. It cannot be that hard to move teams a few spots. I understand there are locations involved, rules around conferences being in a the same region, etc. - but again - they are huddled in a room together for multiple days with massive amounts of computing power, AI, algorithms, scenario tracking, teams of support people, etc.
Our way to a 1 seed is winning out and beating Arizona in the process. If we knock them off in Tucson then that should flip us with them.
Yep, but it goes without saying that we must get past BYU, Utah and Tech first. Zona vs Houston isn't as big of a deal, because one of those two teams is likely the "other" #1 seed that we'd be up against.That game in Tucson is quickly becoming what might be a de facto play-in game for the #1 seed.
I have the same question, but I think it comes down to giving us regional priority in St Louis, which would be with Michigan's or Houston's region and they must want to avoid Houston/ISU and Michigan/Illinois or Purdue in the Elite 8? Or there's something earlier they're trying to avoid like ISU/Kansas and Illinois/Nebraska as the 2/3 matchups.Can someone explain how we are the 2 seed in nearly every BracketMatrix expert's predictions with Michigan as the 1? I thought the overall #1 would be pitted against the last #2 seed which ain't us. Is it based on region/closeness to home?
Just watch, we'll be a projected 1 going into it and then lose a game and the committee will suddenly factor that into making us a 2This year I don't really care about the B12 tournament unless winning it gives us a 1 seed.
Well, I am actually not giving them any creditYou give the committee way more credit than they deserve. Mostly, they look at what the idiot Lunardi has to say.
Based on the knowledge that Lunardi is one of the worst prognosticators on what the Committee will do, I think this is not true at all. If it was, Lunardi would rank as one of the best.You give the committee way more credit than they deserve. Mostly, they look at what the idiot Lunardi has to say.
I don't think your tie breakers are entirely correct. I believe that the winning percentage against top teams is against all of the teams with the same record before any tie breakers are applied to them. So the winning percentage against #1 teams would be percentage against ISU and UH combined.
Yep, but it goes without saying that we must get past BYU, Utah and Tech first. Zona vs Houston isn't as big of a deal, because one of those two teams is likely the "other" #1 seed that we'd be up against.
They are also clear down at 10 in the NET.Kenpom dropped UConn to 14th. Not sure where they were before but that seems awful low for a 1 seed.