2024-2025 MBB computer projections thread

NorthCyd

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Hard to take this seriously with Michigan as a 2 seed. Or is this a typo and they actually mean Michigan State?
Before tonight having Michigan as a 2 seed wouldn't have been all that unrealistic. Hovering around #10 by most metrics with a 3-1 quad 1 record. Losing to Minnesota will tank that though.
 

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So I think we are all in agreement for the best path?

Milwaukee-> Indianapolis->San Antonio?
 

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Before tonight having Michigan as a 2 seed wouldn't have been all that unrealistic. Hovering around #10 by most metrics with a 3-1 quad 1 record. Losing to Minnesota will tank that though.
Your right. I’m just surprised given weakness of their resume. Losses to Arkansas, Wake and Oklahoma.

Best win is over UCLA? Next best probably Iowa.
 

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It would've been nice if Dayton hadn't decided to completely **** the bed as well.

Hi I'm non-con Dayton and I have DirecTV
Hi I'm A10 play Dayton and I eat crayons

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Have they had injuries or something? That's not the same team we saw in Maui.

I also find it funny that Oklahoma has gone from ranked 12th two weeks ago to the last four line. They are total frauds like Cincinnati.
 

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It would've been nice if Dayton hadn't decided to completely **** the bed as well.

Hi I'm non-con Dayton and I have DirecTV
Hi I'm A10 play Dayton and I eat crayons

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I thought they looked great when we played them, especially offensively. Seemed to be loaded at guard. I'm shocked they're not doing better. Did they have a big injury or something?
 

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Is it crazy that on January 16th, unless a cataclysmic collapse happens, I am not worried about dropping 3-4 games and still feeling comfortable about getting a 1 seed?

At this point I am thinking about regions and where we can get a “home court” in the tournament.
 

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Have they had injuries or something? That's not the same team we saw in Maui.

I also find it funny that Oklahoma has gone from ranked 12th two weeks ago to the last four line. They are total frauds like Cincinnati.
I really don’t think OU will even get in. Just not very good.
 
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Hard to take this seriously with Michigan as a 2 seed. Or is this a typo and they actually mean Michigan State?

That projection was before the Minnesota loss.

Yeah yeah Minnesota sucks but a close OT loss on the road...

...not great not terrible. There are at least a few mitigating factors to soften the blow.

Torvik dropped them to a #3 after that loss.
 

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They don't use the NET Rankings to seed teams, they use the resume which consists of your quadrant wins. Houston being third does not mean they would be a 1 seed and ahead of ISU if the tournament were today. Not anywhere close to that.

It's easy to sit here today and say that because we are in a super favorable position. If we drop 2 or 3 games, the 1 seed picture isn't going to look quite so rosy. Duke and Auburn are basically locks for a 1. Even if Auburn drops a few games they have put in the work to secure their seed. The ACC is pathetic and Duke will walk to a 1 seed. It's hard not seeing the SEC getting a second 1seed as well because the their schedule is loaded with Q1 wins, which will look really nice in the committees "sorting tool". Just my two cents but there is certainly a place for the analytics but who you beat and when should also matter. Running the score up against weak competition shouldn't be rewarded.
 

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Before tonight having Michigan as a 2 seed wouldn't have been all that unrealistic. Hovering around #10 by most metrics with a 3-1 quad 1 record. Losing to Minnesota will tank that though.
If Michigan is that high by the metrics, time to throw the metrics in the dumpster and start over. They've beaten basically no one
 

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Someone explain to me like I am 10 years old how Houston is two spots ahead of us in the NET without a single quad 1 win?
 

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If Michigan is that high by the metrics, time to throw the metrics in the dumpster and start over. They've beaten basically no one
Lots of teams are like that. We're getting into the heart of conference season and will really get to separate the contenders from the pretenders.
 

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Someone explain to me like I am 10 years old how Houston is two spots ahead of us in the NET without a single quad 1 win?
As I understand it, it’s analytics-based just like KenPom or Torvik or others.

Houston ahead of us there as well, for what it’s worth.

Then it’s sorted into Quads.

So number of Quad X wins or losses isn’t an input and much as it’s just how the output is displayed.
 

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When they win, they win with elite efficiency.

When they lose, they lose with elite efficiency.
It makes sense but then doesn’t make any sense either to me. At the end of the day it is a tool. For the most part it is a pretty darn accurate indicator of how good a team is, but at the end of the day wins are the thing that ultimately matter.
 

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Last year it was all about how our non-con was weak even though our Conference schedule was rigorous.

Duke this year is the opposite. Strong Non-con with a weak conference schedule because the ACC is stinky doodoo. We'll we hear the nashing of teeth about this? We all know the answer because it's Duke.
There is no conference SOS. They only put out the Non-con SOS and the overall SOS so their Non-con will bouy up both metrics.