2023-2024 MBB computer projections thread

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On offensive woes: Some tend to forget this is the pattern for TJ teams the past 3 years. We play so hard that by late Feb. & early March we hit a wall. Tired legs = poorer shooting. It was clear 3 games ago Milan had hit that wall. He played High School last year so no doubt he is tired from a grinding Big 12 schedule.

For the good news, after about 2 weeks players play thru it and find a 2nd wind. This is in no way the same offense of the past 2 years. In those years if 1 or 2 guys were not scoring we were sunk. This year we have a different guy stepping up almost every game. In the past 2 years we had several games where we scored in the 40's. Not so this year. I feel confident we'll be fine and back to full speed and legs by tournament time.
 

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It's a little irritating you can potentially win 14 Big 12 games in this league this year as strong as it is and not get a piece of the title somehow. There would have been many times over the years when the conference wasn't as good that 14 games would have won it easily.
 

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On offensive woes: Some tend to forget this is the pattern for TJ teams the past 3 years. We play so hard that by late Feb. & early March we hit a wall. Tired legs = poorer shooting. It was clear 3 games ago Milan had hit that wall. He played High School last year so no doubt he is tired from a grinding Big 12 schedule.

For the good news, after about 2 weeks players play thru it and find a 2nd wind. This is in no way the same offense of the past 2 years. In those years if 1 or 2 guys were not scoring we were sunk. This year we have a different guy stepping up almost every game. In the past 2 years we had several games where we scored in the 40's. Not so this year. I feel confident we'll be fine and back to full speed and legs by tournament time.

Other good news is those lulls happened starting early February and this year it's been later and ISU kept winning.

Hopefully this 3-4 days' rest between YCF and BYU helps and ISU can come out and have a night Wednesday.
 
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It's a little irritating you can potentially win 14 Big 12 games in this league this year as strong as it is and not get a piece of the title somehow. There would have been many times over the years when the conference wasn't as good that 14 games would have won it easily.
It's especially irritating when that .1 second at Baylor means Houston probably gets the 1 seed if we tie (and if not for that .1 second, we'd be tied right now and the Baylor part of the tie breaker would no longer be a factor). Still get co-champs if we tie them, even if they have the tie breaker, right?
 

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It's especially irritating when that .1 second at Baylor means Houston probably gets the 1 seed if we tie (and if not for that .1 second, we'd be tied right now and the Baylor part of the tie breaker would no longer be a factor). Still get co-champs if we tie them, even if they have the tie breaker, right?
It really would have been nice if Shead missed that shot the other night. Just once not to come up in the clutch. Oh well, such is life. They're deserving of the title for sure.
 

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It really would have been nice if Shead missed that shot the other night. Just once not to come up in the clutch. Oh well, such is life. They're deserving of the title for sure.
They definitely are. If we don't get them, there's no shame in that. Tip of the cap to them, and to our team for keeping the issue in doubt.
 

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Metrics are fine but at some point they've further removed fans from the realities of how a game goes.

Opponents work to improve their areas that aren't great, players are tired and dinged up etc.

I'm afraid if ISU gets bounced early some folks are going to go scorched earth on the team and it won't be deserved at all.
We struggle against zone defense looks and against teams that carry a lot of height in the post. Coaches need to adjust game plans for those things, our players are following thru with what they have been taught
 
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I'm optimistic that Houston is running on fumes here too. They are dealing with multiple injuries. They nearly lost to OU, got pretty lucky at the end both with an uncalled goaltend and a wayward rebound falling right into Shead's hands on the final shot. I say the outright title is still in play!
 

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I'm optimistic that Houston is running on fumes here too. They are dealing with multiple injuries. They nearly lost to OU, got pretty lucky at the end both with an uncalled goaltend and a wayward rebound falling right into Shead's hands on the final shot. I say the outright title is still in play!

This time of the year is when college basketball takes on the characteristics of an endurance race.

It ain't always the best team that wins in the end. It's the one still running at the end.
 
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Will be interesting to see how Marquette does this week without Kolek. They get UConn at home on Wednesday before a semi-tricky road game at Xavier. Going 0-2 likely drops them to the 3 line.
 

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Also OU, who is a middling #50 Adjusted Offense on kenpom, just put up 85 points on Houston, and Houston's next opponent (@ UCF) is playing well and just gave us fits in their building.
  1. UCF beats up Houston in a rock fight and wins
  2. KU back at full strength with McCullar runs a beleaguered Houston off the floor
  3. Iowa State knocks of the Mormons and the Mildcats
Pretty easy pathway to the outright Big 12 championship if you ask me.
 

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Also OU, who is a middling #50 Adjusted Offense on kenpom, just put up 85 points on Houston, and Houston's next opponent (@ UCF) is playing well and just gave us fits in their building.
  1. UCF beats up Houston in a rock fight and wins
  2. KU back at full strength with McCullar runs a beleaguered Houston off the floor
  3. Iowa State knocks of the Mormons and the Mildcats
Pretty easy pathway to the outright Big 12 championship if you ask me.

Torvik chances of these happening...

1.) 14%

2.) 15%

3a.) 77%

3b.) 72%

Multiplying those together = 1.16424%

It could happen. Approximately 1% might be a little low. But I wouldn't call it likely.
 

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