2022 Recruiting/Transfer Class

[IsUaClone2]

Certainly ISU will try to upgrade the offense, but focus will remain on the defensive side.

I've been thinking the same since TJ hired Kyle Green.

I also believe that an elite defense absolutely depends on having the five guys work together like a fine watch so I don't think TJ will go after players who are unstoppable on offense but don't understand or take breaks on their defensive assignments.

 

[Pat]

But there's a big difference in kickout 3's stemming from a drive and passing the ball around the perimeter and chucking one up with the ball never getting inside the 3 point line. Our offense resembled the latter too often this season.

Right, but if there’s not a credible threat (or two), teams will sag and take away driving lanes. I think we’re on the same page here: driving the lane is going to result in better looks. I think the best way to facilitate that for the current roster is to add shooting.

 

[dafarmer]

Hmmm. You know, i think this kid might fit our system. Just a hunch tho

Chris Beard and Texa$?

 

[WhoISthis]

Right, but if there’s not a credible threat (or two), teams will sag and take away driving lanes. I think we’re on the same page here: driving the lane is going to result in better looks. I think the best way to facilitate that for the current roster is to add shooting.

It’s both. We attempted 22 3Ps last night and only 4 FTs. That’s not just poor shooting. Also, 18 TOs.

It’s surprising to see many fight against the notion the staff will increase the focus on offense. I mean, they’ll clearly focus on both, so maybe focus isn’t the right word.

Prioritize offense more than they did the past 12 months? Likely. That’s the fastest way to improve on this year. Why wouldn’t the staff will be willing to sacrifice some defense for better offense?
A team with a top-5 defense but bad offense is how you’re one shot away from not even making the tournament. Sliding to top-25 defense if it gets the needed improvements on offense is a no brainer.

TJ mentioned Green is our DC. Do we need an OC as well?

 

[tomar1]

Hmmm. You know, i think this kid might fit our system. Just a hunch tho

Not a scorer we need scorers!

 

[tomar1]

Wow, this would be a whale of a transfer to me..

Wrong

 

[Hayes30]

Eli ******* King

 

[CoKane]

 

[ISUCubswin]

TJ mentioned Green is our DC. Do we need an OC as well?

Watching the **** show in Manhattan, the final 2 minutes where we looked like a middle school team, it looked like our Recruiting and Player Development coach was calling the shots in timeouts.

If TJ isn’t going to be drawing up the plays, one of his top assistants who’s getting paid the big bucks needs to be. We had no offensive identity often this season, and I’d venture to guess if the 7th man listed on your coaching roster is calling any shots, having an efficient offense is not a priority.

That being said, based on success, I do believe this individual is phenomenal at their job title - I just believe if they’re running the offense, that should be their sole focus. Making sure the offense runs and has an identity. There was no one single individual that did that this year.

 

[Gunnerclone]

It’s both. We attempted 22 3Ps last night and only 4 FTs. That’s not just poor shooting. Also, 18 TOs.

It’s surprising to see many fight against the notion the staff will increase the focus on offense. I mean, they’ll clearly focus on both, so maybe focus isn’t the right word.

Prioritize offense more than they did the past 12 months? Likely. That’s the fastest way to improve on this year. Why wouldn’t the staff will be willing to sacrifice some defense for better offense?
A team with a top-5 defense but bad offense is how you’re one shot away from not even making the tournament. Sliding to top-25 defense if it gets the needed improvements on offense is a no brainer.

TJ mentioned Green is our DC. Do we need an OC as well?

I think people would be surprised at the number of guys that are just like “**** you I’m not playing that defense. I’ll go somewhere that I don’t have to do that”

 

[NorthCyd]

Watching the **** show in Manhattan, the final 2 minutes where we looked like a middle school team, it looked like our Recruiting and Player Development coach was calling the shots in timeouts.

If TJ isn’t going to be drawing up the plays, one of his top assistants who’s getting paid the big bucks needs to be. We had no offensive identity often this season, and I’d venture to guess if the 7th man listed on your coaching roster is calling any shots, having an efficient offense is not a priority.

That being said, based on success, I do believe this individual is phenomenal at their job title - I just believe if they’re running the offense, that should be their sole focus. Making sure the offense runs and has an identity. There was no one single individual that did that this year.

What was our offensive identity supposed to be? Our best scoring threat has reduced his game to contested jumpers. Some nights he's on. Down the stretch he wasn't most of the time. After that you don't have any players that are great shooters or great finishers around the rim. Certain players had their moments, but not with any consistency. No amount of coaching was going to make this team good offensively. How are you supposed to have an identity when you have so few players that are good at putting the ball in the basket? Our identity was IB and hopefully someone else shows up.

 

[WhoISthis]

What was our offensive identity supposed to be? Our best scoring threat has reduced his game to contested jumpers. Some nights he's on. Down the stretch he wasn't most of the time. After that you don't have any players that are great shooters or great finishers around the rim. Certain players had their moments, but not with any consistency. No amount of coaching was going to make this team good offensively. How are you supposed to have an identity when you have so few players that are good at putting the ball in the basket? Our identity was IB and hopefully someone else shows up.

Good? That's a strawman. How about not 174 in AdjO?

It's is optimistic to some of the complete futility we often saw wasn't impacted by coaching. Guys quickly look a lot worse and more limited than they are when your offense is bad. Coaching on the offensive side wasn't as good. Careless turnovers, games in which we shot a lot of three pointers when a bad shooting team, no creation of mismatches, little utilization of small-ball, letting one of the most inefficient players to ever start get 22% usage. Playing Jones and Conditt combined 30 minutes a game.

There's this craze that if we did anything different it means we slide in defense. Besides that not necessarily being true, it would be worth it. It is great to be top-5 in defense, but not if it comes with the cost of being that bad on offense so that you're one shot away from missing the tournament. Staying a top-40 defense in combination with a much better offense is the next step, and is more than just better personnel.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Good? That's a strawman. How about not 174 in AdjO?

It's is optimistic to some of the complete futility we often saw wasn't impacted by coaching. Guys quickly look a lot worse and more limited than they are when your offense is bad. Coaching on the offensive side wasn't as good. Careless turnovers, games in which we shot a lot of three pointers when a bad shooting team, no creation of mismatches, little utilization of small-ball, letting one of the most inefficient players to ever start get 22% usage. Playing Jones and Conditt combined 30 minutes a game.

There's this craze that if we did anything different it means we slide in defense. Besides that not necessarily being true, it would be worth it. It is great to be top-5 in defense, but not if it comes with the cost of being that bad on offense so that you're one shot away from missing the tournament. Staying a top-40 defense in combination with a much better offense is the next step, and is more than just better personnel.

It would be really interesting to see what the most successful mix of Kenpom adjO/adjD has been since Kenpom started.

Like what is the “perfect mix” and what is the average profile of all Sweet 16 teams in the Kenpom era?

 

[Cyclad]

What was our offensive identity supposed to be? Our best scoring threat has reduced his game to contested jumpers. Some nights he's on. Down the stretch he wasn't most of the time. After that you don't have any players that are great shooters or great finishers around the rim. Certain players had their moments, but not with any consistency. No amount of coaching was going to make this team good offensively. How are you supposed to have an identity when you have so few players that are good at putting the ball in the basket? Our identity was IB and hopefully someone else shows up.

100% correct.
Only recruiting solves our offensive woes.

 

[isucy86]

Good? That's a strawman. How about not 174 in AdjO?

It's is optimistic to some of the complete futility we often saw wasn't impacted by coaching. Guys quickly look a lot worse and more limited than they are when your offense is bad. Coaching on the offensive side wasn't as good. Careless turnovers, games in which we shot a lot of three pointers when a bad shooting team, no creation of mismatches, little utilization of small-ball, letting one of the most inefficient players to ever start get 22% usage. Playing Jones and Conditt combined 30 minutes a game.

There's this craze that if we did anything different it means we slide in defense. Besides that not necessarily being true, it would be worth it. It is great to be top-5 in defense, but not if it comes with the cost of being that bad on offense so that you're one shot away from missing the tournament. Staying a top-40 defense in combination with a much better offense is the next step, and is more than just better personnel.

Wait a minute. Did TJ and his staff with around 60 years of college coaching suddenly implement some new offense with plays never before seen?

Of course not. Did the staff decide to run a deliberate offense in hope that by limiting possessions, we had a better chance to win? Yes they did. They made a decision based on our talent, to lean heavily on defense.

The staff might have made the same decision regardless of the roster based on the style of play it takes to win in the Big12 Conference. To win in today's Big12- a team has to defend first. I think TJ knows that.

I find it absolutely hilarious that some people are OVERLY critical of a Coaching Staff AND Players who won 2 NCAA Tournament games and 22 games overall. After WINNING 2 games last season.

Why not FOCUS on what we did right than the warts. In a couple years if the warts still exist, your take might have some validity.

 

[Baseline23]

Aside from all of the transfer/recruiting elements, I would send anyone promised minutes for next season to "Jake Sullivan School." 6 months of 1000 shots day, under Jake's stark supervision. Wrist, elbow, rotation, "shooting instead of thinking," etc.
Will this magically turn any of these guys into Steph Curry, or even Matt Thomas? Of course not. But why would this aspect of the game not lead the list of "If you're not getting better, you're getting worse"?
Slagging players for poor shooting, or just accepting that they're poor shooters and trying to band-aid it by supposedly emphasizing other aspects of their game, is not fair to them, and is basically negative reinforment.
I really believe some of these guys, e.g., Gill, can become more than just adequate 3-point threats, eg. Turn two or three 25% guys into a 34% guys, and then we can talk about "becoming UVA or Villanova."

Now, the play of the bigs? That's a whole 'nuther can of worms.

 

[thisISnextyear]

Another LSU decommit from the midwest that were in on

LINK is just in year 1 as a program and is already full of talent that would help us. It’s also talent that we have relationships with. Establishing something there could help long-term.

 

[tomar1]

If Green enters the portal this site is going to be a madhouse.

With his dad here he might not enter the portal but just transfer here!

 

[dafarmer]

Villanova beats Houston 50 -44, so I guess defense doesn't win? Need better shot selection and better 4's with the recruits coming in.

 

[cyfan92]

Reaplacemnt for Walker's scholly? Would be a great piece off the bench. 6'8", 36% from 3 this year on 5 attempts/game. He was a 45% shooter last year from deep