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NFL: 2018 NFL Draft

When's Lazard gonna go? So many receivers I feel like he's better than going ahead of him
 
Lets just hope that Lazard gets drafted and he’s not the last man drafted...There are 2 WR’s taken thus far that i think Lazard better than. NFL is weird how they evaluate players though.
 
I feel like the fact that while he put up numbers that were ISU records they don't stand out like WR's that play in Texas Tech like offenses. Whoever gets him will be getting a steal.
 
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So the Lions trade next years 3rd round pick for a 4th round pick this year? What kind of voodoo does Belichick do to get these deals?
 
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Cy$ said:
Most of your fan base probably wanted Guice. Johnson isn't that bad of a pick.
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Actually, most of the Lions' fan base doesn't know what they want and instead say everything sucks and it doesn't matter what they get because they're going to lose anyway.

This is a fanbase that thinks that Matt Stafford is the most overrated QB in the league. Most of the time they like to pine after, let's say Matt Ryan. Here's what they can't seem to get through their thick skulls - the difference between Ryan and Stafford? The Falcons have built an offense around Ryan. The Falcons have arguably the best receiver in the game in Julio Jones, a good off-receiver in Sanu, further depth in the position, a serviceable TE in Hooper, and arguably the best running tandem in the league in Freeman and Coleman. Of course Ryan is going to succeed with that kind of weaponry around him (in fact, he should be succeeding more than he does). Meanwhile, Stafford has Golden Tate as their #1 receiver (who is a good receiver, but would be a #2/slot receiver on any team that actually had a #1). He does have good, serviceable options in Golliday and Jones, Jr, but they haven't proven to be the kind of guys that can displace Tate from #1. Their TE last year was Eric Ebron, who would drop half of the passes thrown in his direction, most of those actually thrown at his numbers (and then he would ***** about how Stafford didn't throw him the ball enough). They don't even have that this year. And finally, the Lions have statistically the worst running game in the league and haven't had a 100-yard rusher in the last 4 years. Yet somehow, even with this mess, fans blame Stafford for the team's inability to win when, in reality, without Stafford the Lions wouldn't even be a playoff contender.

See, Lions fans also like to compare their teams to the Packers and Patriots and see that those teams have Rodgers and Brady, respectively, and considering how ultimately those two QBs are the reason why those teams are successes, Lions fans want to blow up the entire team in search of that kind of QB. What they don't get is QBs like Rodgers and Brady are unicorns - you don't just find them in the draft, they just happen. Not to mention neither team blew up their franchise in order to draft them. When the Packers drafted Rodgers, Favre was still a high-level QB and Rodgers somehow unexplicably slid in the draft and just fell in their lap. Brady, meanwhile, was a 6th-round pick that nobody thought anything would come from - until Bledsoe got popped in the chest and Brady's number was called. Lions fans like to talk about how both the Packers and Patriots win without talent outside of Rodgers and Brady. While I can't speak for the Packers, it's not true with the Patriots. Brady has the best TE in the game in Gronk, while the Patriots during Brady's career have always been able to surround him with inexpensive talent that fits the system they run (which is why they don't always live up to expectations when they leave NE).

Sure, Stafford isn't and probably never will be a unicorn, but, like Ryan, he's a fine-tuned Ferrari. The Falcons give their Ferrari premium fuel and drive him on a racetrack. The Lions give their Ferrari cheap fuel and drive him around on Michigan roads - and then wonder why and ***** about how it doesn't perform like a Ferrari.
 
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I think Lazard was thought to be 4th-6th round coming into the draft, so not super surprising he hasn't been taken yet. Cain from Clemson still on the board too; he was a damn good receiver as well.
 
Cyclones_R_GR8 said:
So the Lions trade next years 3rd round pick for a 4th round pick this year? What kind of voodoo does Belichick do to get these deals?
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For the record I agree with you.

However, the way they explain it on TV, a pick in this year's draft is worth a pick from an earlier round in next year's draft, i.e., a 4th round pick this year is worth a 3rd round pick next year. It's kind of like time value of money: a dollar today is worth more than a dollar next year, as in if you ever win the lottery you always choose the lump sum payout over the payments in installments because that money is worth more now, even if you end up getting more of a payout over time.
 
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jdoggivjc said:
Actually, most of the Lions' fan base doesn't know what they want and instead say everything sucks and it doesn't matter what they get because they're going to lose anyway.

This is a fanbase that thinks that Matt Stafford is the most overrated QB in the league. Most of the time they like to pine after, let's say Matt Ryan. Here's what they can't seem to get through their thick skulls - the difference between Ryan and Stafford? The Falcons have built an offense around Ryan. The Falcons have arguably the best receiver in the game in Julio Jones, a good off-receiver in Sanu, further depth in the position, a serviceable TE in Hooper, and arguably the best running tandem in the league in Freeman and Coleman. Of course Ryan is going to succeed with that kind of weaponry around him (in fact, he should be succeeding more than he does). Meanwhile, Stafford has Golden Tate as their #1 receiver (who is a good receiver, but would be a #2/slot receiver on any team that actually had a #1). He does have good, serviceable options in Golliday and Jones, Jr, but they haven't proven to be the kind of guys that can displace Tate from #1. Their TE last year was Eric Ebron, who would drop half of the passes thrown in his direction, most of those actually thrown at his numbers (and then he would ***** about how Stafford didn't throw him the ball enough). They don't even have that this year. And finally, the Lions have statistically the worst running game in the league and haven't had a 100-yard rusher in the last 4 years. Yet somehow, even with this mess, fans blame Stafford for the team's inability to win when, in reality, without Stafford the Lions wouldn't even be a playoff contender.

See, Lions fans also like to compare their teams to the Packers and Patriots and see that those teams have Rodgers and Brady, respectively, and considering how ultimately those two QBs are the reason why those teams are successes, Lions fans want to blow up the entire team in search of that kind of QB. What they don't get is QBs like Rodgers and Brady are unicorns - you don't just find them in the draft, they just happen. Not to mention neither team blew up their franchise in order to draft them. When the Packers drafted Rodgers, Favre was still a high-level QB and Rodgers somehow unexplicably slid in the draft and just fell in their lap. Brady, meanwhile, was a 6th-round pick that nobody thought anything would come from - until Bledsoe got popped in the chest and Brady's number was called. Lions fans like to talk about how both the Packers and Patriots win without talent outside of Rodgers and Brady. While I can't speak for the Packers, it's not true with the Patriots. Brady has the best TE in the game in Gronk, while the Patriots during Brady's career have always been able to surround him with inexpensive talent that fits the system they run (which is why they don't always live up to expectations when they leave NE).

Sure, Stafford isn't and probably never will be a unicorn, but, like Ryan, he's a fine-tuned Ferrari. The Falcons give their Ferrari premium fuel and drive him on a racetrack. The Lions give their Ferrari cheap fuel and drive him around on Michigan roads - and then wonder why and ***** about how it doesn't perform like a Ferrari.
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