12/17 Official Coaching Search Thread

I would like to see him as well but I haven't heard one good reason why he would want to come to ISU. Minnesota offered him 2 million reasons and he said no.

His wife has ties to ISU/Ames. I believe she went to school here and her parents live in Ames. (Someone correct me if I am wrong)
 
I just don't know how much of a shot at Patterson we have. He already makes near $2 million and they can go higher, recruiting may be a bit easier to TCU and all he has to do is win that weaker conference and he has a legit shot at a BCS bowl... Tough to compete with...
 
I would like to see him as well but I haven't heard one good reason why he would want to come to ISU. Minnesota offered him 2 million reasons and he said no.


We are Iowa State thats why. Plus this is the big 12 north...I think with a solid hire like this we have an outside chance to take a weak north division next year. If we can keep most of our players I dont think its out of the realm of possibility that we can contend now.

Plus his wife is from Ames...and Minneapolis is a dump
 
He may think that, but I doubt LSU fans would be satisfied with promoting someone on the staff if their firing Miles because the team is not performing. I'm guessing LSU would need to go outside and get a huge name to please the fans - but who knows.

If a coach is on the hotseat, I'd think that would give assistants a reason to be looking, instead of wanting to hang around.

You are correct, there would be a sizable number that would want to go outside and get a big name...heck, some would even advocate going after Saban if Miles got the boot.

However, everyone has been pretty darned happy with the offense under Crowton. Actually, most think he has done more than Jimbo Fisher did as OC. And they were productive this year with a RS Frosh and a true Frosh getting most of the snaps at QB while not having the entire playbook under their grasp. My point is that most LSU fans would not be displeased with Crowton from what they have seen him do here.

The heat this year is on Miles and his decision to promote two unproven coaches on the defensive side to co-DCs...Doug Mallory (Bill Mallory of CU's kid) and Bradley Dale Peveto. The defense horribly underperformed for the talent they had on the team this season. Word is that Mallory is getting demoted, Peveto is getting canned, and the D-line coach is also getting canned after the bowl game.
 
I just don't know how much of a shot at Patterson we have. He already makes near $2 million and they can go higher, recruiting may be a bit easier to TCU and all he has to do is win that weaker conference and he has a legit shot at a BCS bowl... Tough to compete with...

Correct me if I am wrong but even if he went undefeated at TCU there is a possibility TCU wouldnt make a BCS bowl game b/c they arent in a BCS conference?
 
We are Iowa State thats why. Plus this is the big 12 north...I think with a solid hire like this we have an outside chance to take a weak north division next year. If we can keep most of our players I dont think its out of the realm of possibility that we can contend now.

Plus his wife is from Ames...and Minneapolis is a dump

Wife being from Ames could actually be a good reason for him to consider it over comparable jobs like Minnesota. GP would be a fantastic hire - probably the best possible scenario.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but even if he went undefeated at TCU there is a possibility TCU wouldnt make a BCS bowl game b/c they arent in a BCS conference?

TCU usually plays pretty tough out of conference schedule, it would have been tough to leave them out of the BCS this year even though Boise State got screwed. I just love watching barely .500 ACC teams in BCS teams though.:confused:
 
I just don't know how much of a shot at Patterson we have. He already makes near $2 million and they can go higher, recruiting may be a bit easier to TCU and all he has to do is win that weaker conference and he has a legit shot at a BCS bowl... Tough to compete with...

I think the reason Patterson (and previously Gill) might consider ISU is that there is more potential at ISU than TCU. I would argue that the TCU program is definitely better than ISU right now, but it's also at its proverbial ceiling.

If you go 12-0 at TCU, you might get to play in a BCS game, IF a few other things go your way.

At ISU you can go 8-4 and in some years win the North, putting you in a position to EARN a trip to a BCS game, not luck into one.

I guess a lot of it depends on what he's looking for at this stage of his career. If he's content with winning 10-12 games a year, winning the Mtn West here and there, and playing in low-level bowl games, then he won't consider ISU.
 
So Whittingham's going to leave his BCS Sugar Bowl team to come coach 2-10 Iowa State? That would just be plain stupid on his part. His next move will be to a big time program. Auburn should have looked at him.

Whittingham's not going anywhere. He's entrenched at Utah. He took over the DC position there in the mid-90s from his father and was DC for 10 years under two head coaches before taking over. I'm an alum of both ISU and Utah and while I think that he would be a very good hire for ISU, I don't think there's a chance he's looking to go anywhere.
 
How about Vikings Offensive Coordinator Darrell Bevel? He played for Wisconsin, coached a year at Iowa State under McCarney and has moved his way up from QB coach to O-Coordinator...He has Pollard connections...
 
gary patterson, David Baliff, Whittingham, Todd Graham....and there are others.

Look...Loney is a terrific alumn...but not what ISU needs...right now.


Was Chizik the best coach we could get at the time? Just asking.

At the time? everyone including the media he was the best out there. So you are saying if we have one bad experience ordering prime rib...we should stick to ordering a safe tasty hot dog?

Sticking with the food analogy, how times do you eat prime rib and it sucks before you give a hot dog a try? How do you know it won't be the best hot dog ever? I'm done now.
 
We are Iowa State thats why. Plus this is the big 12 north...I think with a solid hire like this we have an outside chance to take a weak north division next year. If we can keep most of our players I dont think its out of the realm of possibility that we can contend now.

Plus his wife is from Ames...and Minneapolis is a dump

Are you joking?
 
I guess a lot of it depends on what he's looking for at this stage of his career. If he's content with winning 10-12 games a year, winning the Mtn West here and there, and playing in low-level bowl games, then he won't consider ISU.

The trick is getting a coach to think in that regard about ISU. Yes we might have the talent to win the Big 12 North next year. But our program has never shown the potential to compete with the upper Big 12 South schools, not to mention beat one to go to the BCS. Even looking at those "really good" North teams from the last couple years (Missouri and Kansas), they got destroyed by the upper level of the South. I'm not saying that can't change, but lets start by having a winning season before we throw out ideas about the BCS.
 
Whittingham's not going anywhere. He's entrenched at Utah. He took over the DC position there in the mid-90s from his father and was DC for 10 years under two head coaches before taking over. I'm an alum of both ISU and Utah and while I think that he would be a very good hire for ISU, I don't think there's a chance he's looking to go anywhere.

Well if he is "firmly entrenched", we have a chance!