I can imagine that the idiots on X were able to be more direct with their nonsense than the idiots here.
Keshon Gilbert
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I think this is probably 100% correct. Reading about players and coaches around the country getting hateful messages, even death threats, I'm sure Keshon was too.
And it sucks.
Cmon man. You don’t know what % he is right now or would be a week from now. I don’t think that he hurt the team vs byu. The rumor makes a lot more sense than just shutting him down and having him stay in Ames. In a normal situation with a player in good standing, you don’t rule someone with this kind of injury out for good. You leave the door cracked, rehab like crazy, and hope that maybe he could play in the S16 or E8 if we make it.
If people don’t want to believe the rumor, that’s great, but to say it doesn’t make sense is naive IMO.
This is even dumber. Let’s believe random rumors that make no practical sense (seriously, you think Keshon or Keshon’s dad went to TJ and said “I’m only playing injured if you give me more NIL money”?? Really?) from random internet posters who haven’t been right about anything over the head coach, the player, CW, Brent Blum, and others.
This crazy conspiracy theory **** is annoying.
None of the people you directly mentioned gain anything from telling the actual story publicly, because regardless of what we are told to think, there is clearly something else going on. In fact, most of the people you mentioned probably have something to lose if what actually is happening is made publicly available.
So that somehow makes Remo Gaggi, random internet poster who has not ever proven to know inside info, potentially credible? Should we believe every random internet rumor? Especially the really dumb ones like Keshon’ dad demanding money for his injured son to play? You are right that we will never likely know the full story but that doesn’t mean every rumor has credibility.
And CW and Blum have a track record of spilling the beans, even when it’s not favorable to the program. Chris did it with Caleb Grill. But sure, believe the conspiracy theories more…I guess that’s more fun?
Ok, it doesn’t matter now anyway. But to say it makes no sense? You believe what you want to believe I guess. I’ve followed this sport for a long time…unless there’s a major injury like a broken bone or something requiring surgery, you never see someone just flat out get shut down for the tournament. What you do see is uncertainty….out “indefinitely” or there’s a “possibility” he could come back if we make the S16 or FF. Maybe the player never makes it back, but you keep that chance that maybe the rehab works and maybe he’s well enough to give it a shot in a week.
That rumor may or may not be true, but it makes perfect sense.
Aside from conjecture and rumor.
The facts.
- Keshon started the year as a national player contender
- started to appear a step slow and hobbled as conference season began
- teams seemed to defend him differently and he tried to play by cutting through double/triple teams
- turnovers increased, production and efficiency dropped
- he began to display more and more frustration on the court
- his play continued at the reduced production, efficiency and turnovers
- TJ makes comment about individual vosls
- injury is made more public
- in and out of games
- keshon battles but is limited
- KG is **** down
It could be a myriad of things. I have no desire to dig for dirt that maligns KG or TJ. If a credible report surfaces. It warrants further consideration.
We would t be where we are this year or last without KG. No use in burying the guy.
The facts.
- Keshon started the year as a national player contender
- started to appear a step slow and hobbled as conference season began
- teams seemed to defend him differently and he tried to play by cutting through double/triple teams
- turnovers increased, production and efficiency dropped
- he began to display more and more frustration on the court
- his play continued at the reduced production, efficiency and turnovers
- TJ makes comment about individual vosls
- injury is made more public
- in and out of games
- keshon battles but is limited
- KG is **** down
It could be a myriad of things. I have no desire to dig for dirt that maligns KG or TJ. If a credible report surfaces. It warrants further consideration.
We would t be where we are this year or last without KG. No use in burying the guy.
I guess we’ll agree to disagree. But if I posted “Keshon was never really hurt and blew through his NIL money at Big Earl’s in Des Moines, faked an injury, so his dad could blackmail the head coach into more NIL money”, that could make perfect sense too.
Let’s go with your rumor or mine over the player, head coach, head athletic trainer, top Cyclone insider, and head of the WeWill Collective.
Heise's rough patch seemed to start when Milan got hurt and he got into a good groove when Milan came back. Like either the coaches told him or he told himself he needed to help pick up the slack and he wasn't ready for that. Milan coming back and him being able to be the 8th man again relieved some pressure.
I don't think it should be controversial to say he was playing scared for a period, he couldn't wait to get rid of the ball and was never taking any initiative to make anything happen.
I have zero doubt that he was/is hurt and it has limited his effectiveness. But I also believe either he or his dad made a poor decision and now he’s paying for it. Not being able to play in the ncaa tournament as a senior? I’m not burying him, I feel bad for him. And, I still think he was a great player for us.
I heard this exact same thing, but my "source" was through a friends brother-in-law that is connected to the ISU program. He said .... Gilberts dad went to TJ and basically said," "we" need more NIL if you want KG to playin the tournament".
I believe you 100%, especially since he's not with the team right now. If he was injured he would be with the team. It's too bad, I think with a healthy KG were a tough out and could definitly make the E-8.
Wait, you expect those people to tell the truth when there’s nothing to gain and everything to lose? No one would do that in this kind of situation. And I wouldn’t expect them to.
I didn’t say every rumor has credibility, there is one rumor I am much more inclined to believe that doesn’t involve Keshon’s dad. I would bet I there is stuff on the premium forums that lays it out.
Yes, I was info that his dad wanted more cheddar for him to play. TJ said nope.
Good to know you both have a friend's brother in law "connected" to the program.
Also. Let's say this is true. Not the best business move to give monetary ultimatums when you are 1. Injured 2. Getting less minutes already and 3. Playing your worst basketball of the season
Just not buying it
Hasn’t anyone mentioned to TJ they were just song lyrics?
Except that Chris Williams laid it out in detail for the Grill situation, even though he had “nothing to gain”. He has a track record of not covering up stuff like this. Agree?
Believe whatever crazy conspiracy theory you want. But when these crazy theories require 1) the player to be lying even though his play on the court CLEARLY shows he’s injured, 2) the head coach to be lying, 3) the head athletic trainer to be lying, 4) the top Cyclone insider to be lying even though he’s not lied in these situations before, 5) the leader of WeWill to be lying even though his business thrives on transparency, and 6) no other credible leaks within the program suggesting Keshon’s dad is blackmailing the program for more money.
Could your theory and this rumor be true? Of course it could be, just like my Big Earl’s rumor could be true. It says a lot about the individual to claim all 6 of the above are lying but random message board poster found the real answer. But there are entire communities out there than believe the earth is flat so to each their own.
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