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burn587

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I liked Agatha , and while the middle dragged on a bit much I enjoyed the endgame on it. Really liked how Agatha was pretty much the same character at the end as she was the beginning, she is who she is.

I didn’t enjoy how they felt the need to sing that witches’ road song 30 times an episode. It wasn’t that great of a song.
 

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I liked Agatha , and while the middle dragged on a bit much I enjoyed the endgame on it. Really liked how Agatha was pretty much the same character at the end as she was the beginning, she is who she is.

I didn’t enjoy how they felt the need to sing that witches’ road song 30 times an episode. It wasn’t that great of a song.
Thanks a lot jackass now it’s stuck in my head again. Hah!
 

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I liked Agatha , and while the middle dragged on a bit much I enjoyed the endgame on it. Really liked how Agatha was pretty much the same character at the end as she was the beginning, she is who she is.

I didn’t enjoy how they felt the need to sing that witches’ road song 30 times an episode. It wasn’t that great of a song.

I enjoyed how they played out the storyline of the song
 
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Triggermv

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Hate seeing this stuff as these types of troubled productions rarely turn out good in the end. Rogue One being good is a rare exception. It just sucks too, as the MCU finally seems to be gaining some momentum back in the right direction after Deadpool and Wolverine and Agatha All Along. It will also be interesting to see the future of the MCU with their director choices after we've started a trend of lackluster films directed by fairly inexperienced Indie directors. Granted, I get that was the model in the first few phases that worked out alright, but has been finally biting them in the butt lately it seems. Feige also has lately showed signs of shifting more towards experienced directors with his latest appointments, so these Indie directors might soon become a thing of the past. We'll see.
 

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Captain America: Brave New World might go down as the film with the most "production hell" of all time. I'll be curious to see what the final spending on this movie will be. I doubt it gets anywhere remotely close to a profit at the box office.
 

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Captain America: Brave New World might go down as the film with the most "production hell" of all time. I'll be curious to see what the final spending on this movie will be. I doubt it gets anywhere remotely close to a profit at the box office.

It NEEDS to be palatable. Great cast cant be wasted here.
 
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I fully acknowledge the writing has been lacking or terrible at times, and I may be oversimplifying things a bit, but I think Marvel's recent struggles can partially be attributed to catering too much to the comic book crowd. I've heard enough casual movie-goers complain about the multiverse, how characters die and come back, how/why there's a different Captain America, etc.

I completely get how comics are the source material for the characters and movies, but there is a huge chunk of people that will never read a comic and just want to see an entertaining movie that has an ending, as well as consequences. If people have to research characters to understand a plot or a character's motivation, the studio is going to continue to lose movie-goers. I don't envy trying to cater to both crowds, but they need to recapture the magic of some of Phases 1-3

Guardians of the Galaxy was a great example of telling a fun story with characters most people had never heard of and selling it to the public.

I'm hoping Brave New World turns things around and is a solid movie, but my expectations are going to be at a level that won't leave me disappointed with another mid-level story.
 
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BryceC

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Hate seeing this stuff as these types of troubled productions rarely turn out good in the end. Rogue One being good is a rare exception. It just sucks too, as the MCU finally seems to be gaining some momentum back in the right direction after Deadpool and Wolverine and Agatha All Along. It will also be interesting to see the future of the MCU with their director choices after we've started a trend of lackluster films directed by fairly inexperienced Indie directors. Granted, I get that was the model in the first few phases that worked out alright, but has been finally biting them in the butt lately it seems. Feige also has lately showed signs of shifting more towards experienced directors with his latest appointments, so these Indie directors might soon become a thing of the past. We'll see.

I think people need to shelve any thoughts about momentum from Disney+ TV shows. They need good movies in the theaters, period. The TV shows I don’t think have any lasting impact.
 
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snowcraig2.0

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I fully acknowledge the writing has been lacking or terrible at times, and I may be oversimplifying things a bit, but I think Marvel's recent struggles can partially be attributed to catering too much to the comic book crowd. I've heard enough casual movie-goers complain about the multiverse, how characters die and come back, how/why there's a different Captain America, etc.

I completely get how comics are the source material for the characters and movies, but there is a huge chunk of people that will never read a comic and just want to see an entertaining movie that has an ending, as well as consequences. If people have to research characters to understand a plot or a character's motivation, the studio is going to continue to lose movie-goers. I don't envy trying to cater to both crowds, but they need to recapture the magic of some of Phases 1-3

Guardians of the Galaxy was a great example of telling a fun story with characters most people had never heard of and selling it to the public.

I'm hoping Brave New World turns things around and is a solid movie, but my expectations are going to be at a level that won't leave me disappointed with another mid-level story.
I completely disagree. The problem is not sticking to the source material. For example, Captain Marvel is ridiculously overpowered compared to the comics.
 
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coolerifyoudid

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I completely disagree. The problem is not sticking to the source material. For example, Captain Marvel is ridiculously overpowered compared to the comics.
I'd bet that making Captain Marvel overpowered was pretty low on the list of things people disliked about that movie

However, my main point is that the multiverse storyline was not well received by the average moviegoer. Some stories are better in comics versus trying to make them appeal to a mass audience.
 
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BryceC

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I completely disagree. The problem is not sticking to the source material. For example, Captain Marvel is ridiculously overpowered compared to the comics.

Nobody cares about the source material.
 

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