Illegal man down field from the two yard line?Yes there was an upward thrust as I see now.
Also the 2 point conversion to tie it at 24, ASU had an illegal man down field but defensive holding was called, so it was half the distance and retry.
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Illegal man down field from the two yard line?Yes there was an upward thrust as I see now.
Also the 2 point conversion to tie it at 24, ASU had an illegal man down field but defensive holding was called, so it was half the distance and retry.
Was this reviewed with 5 different clear views?Yes there was an upward thrust as I see now.
Also the 2 point conversion to tie it at 24, ASU had an illegal man down field but defensive holding was called, so it was half the distance and retry.
Not that I really care to re-litigate potential penalties on every play in the game, but are o-linemen allowed to go as far downfield as they want into the endzone on pass plays from the 2?Illegal man down field from the two yard line?
Yes, if they are engaged in blocking.Not that I really care to re-litigate potential penalties on every play in the game, but are o-linemen allowed to go as far downfield as they want into the endzone on pass plays from the 2?
Well sure, but isn't that the case anywhere on the field? If the lineman engages within 3 yards of the LOS and continues to be engaged it doesn't matter how far downfield they go? I thought that was the case anyways.Yes, if they are engaged in blocking.
I am not sure about the specific incident. I didn't see what @iowastatefan1929 is referring to.Well sure, but isn't that the case anywhere on the field? If the lineman engages within 3 yards of the LOS and continues to be engaged it doesn't matter how far downfield they go? I thought that was the case anyways.
My gripe isn’t whether or not ASU was robbed, my gripe is that they claim player safety for the targeting call. Shouldn’t matter if it was a close game or ASU is down 30 at that point. It was horrible to not call targeting there.What I can say is it 100% did not rob them of all opportunity to win the game because that's exactly what they had with the 4th and 13 play.
I'm not either. It just got me thinking about the rule and how it applies in the endzone. There are no yard markers to judge so I am honestly curious how they call it or if the rule doesn't apply in the endzone. I don't think I've ever seen that called in that area.I am not sure about the specific incident. I didn't see what @iowastatefan1929 is referring to.
I think the question is not if targeting is off the table rather if being a defenseless player after a tipped ball still stands. Haven't seen anything to explain that either way.You’re correct. Targeting is still in place EVEN if the ball is tipped. On the other hand, if the ball is tipped, you can’t have pass interference.
If a ball being tipped negates someone from being defenseless then the rule fails at protecting players.I think the question is not if targeting is off the table rather if being a defenseless player after a tipped ball still stands. Haven't seen anything to explain that either way.
I won't argue but I'm just going off what I've heard in the past.If a ball being tipped negates someone from being defenseless then the rule fails at protecting players.
I won't argue but I'm just going off what I've heard in the past.
There's also this, take it for what it's worth as a google response:
I think that's an NFL rule. Not sure if it applies in college but I think that's part of the larger problem which is this rule is too vague to enforce consistently.Don't get me wrong, I believe it's possible that is how the rule is written. I'm just saying if it is it fails at its purpose.
I won't argue but I'm just going off what I've heard in the past.
There's also this, take it for what it's worth as a google response:
Because targeting isn't negated from the tipped ball, supposedly the protections of defenseless player are. Can still be targeting without defenseless player stipulations.Then why even review it? Everyone knew the ball was tipped.
Is it OK to lay out the QB or another receiver away from the ball when it’s tipped? I’m not trying to be snarky, this is a legit question. Once a ball is tipped is it OK to go head hunting on anyone around you?
Plausible deniability.It was targeting. There are different rules for Texas. Never forget. Jeremiah George stripped the ball from the Texas runner that was denied by the referees way back when. Texas was helped by referees. There is bias. Shoe on opposite foot and Texas receiver is the targeted victim it is called against ASU. Tainted victory. Fix is in. Obviously.
They don’t. The most significant part of the college football viewing audience live in Big 10 and SEC country.As someone said earlier, I'm done watching the SEC/Big 10 Invitational.
Screw you ESPN. I couldn't give a sh*t who wins from here on out, and I sincerely hope a significant part of the college football viewing audience feels the same way.
This might be the best post I’ve seen on the fraudulent targeting call!Please no comments on this thread, only links to credible sources that explain why that hit on ASU was not targeting. I honestly have no clue on targeting anymore. I want to learn.
I will allow bumps....