8 Year extension for Campbell
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Dont most of the major names now have agents in college? I would assume much of the contacts are made through those agents.
Not that it even matters. Its the wild west and no one is policing it at all. Still one of the biggest issues, they are making it an NFL light system, but without any of the rules and oversight of the NFL.
I am trying to stick with the vow I made years ago when ISU went through the Duncan, Criner, Walden years when I said I will NEVER complain about 7 wins and going to bowl games every year.
Sure I would like to see ISU win 10-plus games each year. But seriously folks, this is as good of a run as any one can expect from a coach at ISU.
...and yet us fans as a collective ran McCarney out of town because that simply wasn't good enough anymore.
And while I don't think Campbell is anywhere close to being run out of town at this point (nor should he be), I think there would be a lot more disgruntled fans after this season if it wasn't a 10-win season... especially after starting 7-0, despite the number of injuries sustained to the defense.
100% on all you said.
And i'm sure we are not above reproach and have people who have talked to people if there are rumors of people available, etc.
I mean, mccarney was run out of town for missing huge opportunities twice and bookending those missed opportunities with absolutely dreadful seasons.
Mac was and still is a great guy, but his program was going backwards.
Campbell has one season where his team didn't live up to expectations, and that was Purdy's and Hall's senior year. They still won 7 games, but Mac's teams were winning 3 or 4 and not improving.
Same with Rhoads. Great guy and his program made great strides, but couldn't maintain the success.
I have no idea what the "Rocco news" is either.
Maybe if I listened to an 11th or 12th daily ISU podcast instead of just 9 or read 300 CF threads instead of 100.
Does the trade off come with 10 win seasons? Because I will take that over "time out management".
Mac and Rhoads also couldn't compete with the top of the conference. Sure Rhoads had the Okie State upset and a few other great wins but his teams usually folded against the best of the Big 12. There's really only been a small handful of games under Campbell (Iowa his first year, Notre Dame bowl game, TCU 2022, etc.) where his team laid an egg. Campbell won me over his first year when he had a close loss to Oklahoma which is something nobody at Iowa State did in the Stoops era.
There's no comparison. Look at the records.
Snyder relied heavily on JUCOs, many of whom were partial qualifiers and wouldn’t get into most schools. Even Mac attempted this strategy at times and many/most of the highest rated jucos he recruited never got admitted. Totally different recruiting landscape today.
Campbell teams were more competitive than previous staffs with OU and Texas almost immediately.
I love all three of those guys but that's really the difference. A 7 win season where you're in every game is very different than a 7 win season where the ranked Big 12 teams obliterate you.
perfect example - expectations were raised. McCarney was fired just as much for failing to do better than 7 wins in 2005 when that team's ceiling was much, much higher, as he was for the program falling off the cliff in 2006, much less not meeting elevated expectations in 2006.
as I said, even in McCarney's time, expectations were raised above more than just winning seasons and bowl games... the same standard some people want to continue to hold Campbell to when he's already shown he can do much, much more. And if he continues to do much, much more, more is going to eventually be expected from him. It's an undeniable truth.
I think it also matters that this program is unequivocally his.
