USS Arizona - After all this time . . .

My grandpa(deceased U.S. navy retired CW4) was aboard the USS North Hampton on that day. They were out to sea as part of the Enterprise task force. They got back to pearl the day after the attack. I remember grandpa talking about it once, he said the harbor was covered in an oil slick, fire and bodies everywhere. Said he hoped to never see anything like it again. After doing a little research I learned that same carrier group was part of the famous Doolittle raid immediately after.

The North Hampton was sunk in '42. He spent a night afloat keeping one of his shipmates from dying.
I believe that the Enterprise was supposed to be a Pearl Harbor, but circumstances made them late, thus missing the attack and giving the US a little capacity to respond.
 
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Prior to the Japanese surrender there was a Japanese delegation that flew to meet with General MacArthur to discuss the terms of the surrender. American leaders told the Japanese to paint large green crosses on the Bettys they were flying in. The Japanese were afraid they would be shot down by Americans mistaking them for hostile enemies. Americans were afraid they would be shot down by Japanese insurgents that didn't believe in the surrender. This flight was also escorted by a large number of American aircraft. My grandfather served in one of the squadrons assigned escort duty. On display on the USS Alabama is a photo of the same type of plane my grandpa flew in, a B17 modified for air to sea rescue, with his squadron markings on it. The tail number of the plane is not legible in the photo. I do not know if that was his plane or if he flew on that mission or not.

Great personal story.

From readings, the U.S. Navy was on edge sailing into Japanese waters following the surrender agreement (August 14 or 15, iirc). Missouri followed by Iowa sailed, warrily, into the Inland Sea under battle stations, with only three or four small escorts, on August 30, 1945. (Photo below.)

What a time.

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Missouri (left) and Iowa exchanging sailors and material while underway headed for Japanese home waters.

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Boring memories incoming…

When I was 14 I went to Pearl Harbor with my family and they showed a brief video before you would walk out and see the Arizona beneath the water. What stood out to me is that the host told folks to be respectful of others since they could have been a part of the PH attack or could have lost family members. That was sobering to a kid that has no concept of war and death.

The most poignant memory was seeing oil still dripping up from the Arizona and break on the surface of the water. Even after all these years. That and knowing there’s still sailors buried beneath with the ship. It must have been just a horrific day.
 
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Boring memories incoming…

When I was 14 I went to Pearl Harbor with my family and they showed a brief video before you would walk out and see the Arizona beneath the water. What stood out to me is that the host told folks to be respectful of others since they could have been a part of the PH attack or could have lost family members. That was sobering to a kid that has no concept of war and death.

The most poignant memory was seeing oil still dripping up and break on the surface of the water. Even after all these years. That and knowing there’s still sailors buried beneath with the ship. It must have been just a horrific day.
Yes. I’ve never been to the Tomb of the Unknowns in DC, but I’m guessing it’s just as solemn. When we were at the Arizona Memorial, you literally could hear a pin drop from the time we got on the transport until we left. Awe-inspiring and sad at the same time.
 
I believe that the Enterprise was supposed to be a Pearl Harbor, but circumstances made them late, thus missing the attack and giving the US a little capacity to respond.

IIRC, there were 3 CVs assigned to Pearl Harbor. One was at Puget Sound for work, one (or two?) were delivering aircraft to Wake Island. (I sure could have this wrong.)

The carriers missing from Pearl Harbor and maybe the Japanese failing to take out the huge fuel tanks and repair yards were decisive.

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Sorry, I don't know what you mean.

Arizona was commissioned in 1916, Iowa in 1943. I didn't make it clear what subjects I was talking about, maybe? I clip my comments often, leery of going on and on, as I do too often.

Let me know more, please.
I understand now, thanks for the info!
 
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We spent an entire day at Pearl back in 2018 when we went out for the Maui invitational; spent 5 days on Maui and 5 on Oahu. We took the time to go through all of the exhibits, reading the plaques. Sadly, the one thing we were NOT able to do was step out onto the Arizona memorial. There had been damage to the stairs and they had not yet been repaired. Our excursion boat went over and around the ship itself, but couldn't dock at the memorial.
 
Thank u as well. I’ll never forget getting McDonald’s my first time and a Big Mac meal was 13.25 in the 90’s. I about fell on the floor
I remember (kind of) coming out of Moose McGuillicuttys late at night and stumbling next door to Burger King and the sticker shock was astounding. You know as well as I do they don’t pay very well In the service.
 
There is discussion about this, I've read.

Iowa returned to San Francisco in January 1945 to repair damage from Typhoon Cobra the previous month. While in the yard, Iowa received a powerful radio suite whose purpose was to relay the surrender ceremony to the world.

Other reasons for believing Iowa was the surrender ship designee: She was the first of her class and FDR chose the name; the top Navy admiral and close FDR advisor, William D. Leahy, was from Hampton, Iowa; FDR's chief aide and intimate friend was Sioux City's Harry Hopkins. The Navy's highest percentage of sailors were Iowans, and Iowa's congressional delegation lobbied hard.

IIRC, only Iowa of the four sisters (the largest and easily the fastest ever built by the United States) was built with fleet admiral quarters (also accommodating the admiral's large staff).

When FDR died nearly 5 months before the surrender, many assumed that Missourian Harry Truman intervened. He was fond of the Missouri.

But, then, there's this: At the time of the surrender, the Missouri was serving as a flagship. Flagship designation fluctuated among ships and also according to which admiral was the top man at the time - it rotated.

As I understand it, to this day it's unknown to a final degree why Missouri, the last Iowa Class warrior to reach the Pacific Theater, was selected to host the ceremony. Anyway. . . .

Wow. Never knew that there were so many political maneuvers related to these historical events.
 
Probably the most subdued I’ve been getting on the boat to travel the short distance to the memorial.
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I can attest to these subdued feelings. My family visited the Arizona when my children were young. My eight year old daughter requested from the Ranger to release her orchid lei into the ocean. He permitted it as long as she did not release the string. Dozens of adults stood quietly by and watched with tears in their eyes as the petals floated away from the dock.

I agree with @CycloneRulzzz. Unforgettable and humbling experience.
 
Yes. I’ve never been to the Tomb of the Unknowns in DC, but I’m guessing it’s just as solemn. When we were at the Arizona Memorial, you literally could hear a pin drop from the time we got on the transport until we left. Awe-inspiring and sad at the same time.
The tomb of the unknown is overwhelming. The solemnity is so powerful. I have gone to the tomb in my dress uniform and seen ceremonies that evoke feelings that are akin to spiritual moments.
 

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