If there was nobody in the stands to see it, did it really happen?
Purdue had more fans than custodians, ushers, and ticket takers in the stands for all of those games, Iowa has maybe twice.
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Purdue had more fans than custodians, ushers, and ticket takers in the stands for all of those games, Iowa has maybe twice.
During that same time Wisconsin also went to the final 4 and made it to the championship in different seasons. They also won the big ten championship 3 times, that’s hanging banners and putting trophies in the case.
That’s making noise like I said.
So that should be the expectation for Iowa becuase Wisconsin did it? They also had Bo Ryan, he coached circles around Fran.
A merry-go-round runs circles around Fran.
I guess if you think just making the tournament is a success, he’s your guy. Some fanbases consider that a minimum level of expectation.
But yet he's still 6-7 this year with no good players and a bunch of freshman? They are probably the least talented team in the Big 10 right now and are still around .500.
I mean, with as many P6 teams make the tournament each year, it should be an expectation within all of them to make the tournament. Any year you don't is generally considered a bad year (some of those can be excused for rebuilding depending on the situation). In the big 10, 12 of 14 teams have made the field within the last 2 years. It isn't that special.
Is it a bad year by itself if you don't make the second weekend? No.
Is it a bad 5-10 years if you don't see the second weekend? Absolutely, at least if you're at a school that claims to care about basketball.
Is it a bad year by itself if you don't make the second weekend? No.
Is it a bad 5-10 years if you don't see the second weekend? Absolutely, at least if you're at a school that claims to care about basketball.
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You were the one that brought up Wisconsin as a comparison to justify the tourney births and not firing a coach that only made the tourney and nothing more. I was saying that Wisconsin has made runs and won the conference title (similar to Purdue who you referenced) and that’s why it’s not a good comparison.
Look I don’t think your coach should be fired but I would totally understand the fans getting frustrated about never really making it past the first weekend and his seat getting warm.
You can fire a coach for slightly above mediocrity with no progress or even with regression. Iowa basketball is currently in regression. Attendance is poor, even on weekends. There is a new AD. This is the perfect time to fire Fran so the new AD can make their own hire and re-excite the fan base
Painter has had THREE S16s plus an E8 appearance out of those 8 appearances. That's 9 wins. How many does Fran have? Four, with zero S16s of course.
Also, Painter is a terrible coach.
Ya I knew he was from Iowa, but I assumed he likes it here. I wasn't very clear.
It’s nice to not see TJ’s name mentioned as possible replacement, unlike CMC who all the “experts” always had taking seemingly every opening available. I think everyone knows this is where TJ wants to be.
This is the dumbest **** I've ever read in the history of this message board.
No AD ever fired a coach because of wins or losses. They fire a coach because of fan support and ultimately revenue coming in. If boosters stop buying tickets and donating money, you have to make a change. It doesn’t matter how many wins a coach gets.
Iowa fans just don’t care anymore. That alone requires his removal. The teams record doesn’t matter.
Are you arguing for or against his removal? Cause being the least talented team in the Big10 isn’t a ringing endorsement for a coach responsible for recruiting.
I honestly don't give a **** what they do either way. I just know they aren't firing a guy who just came off 5 straight tourneys and is 14-10 in a rebuilding year.
So you weren't around when a Hawk fan claimed Monte Morris and Mike Gesell were essentially washes for a point guard?
Not any worse than any of your posts. Are you Franisdaman on GIA? Rebuilding year? Isn’t that a given every year at Iowa?
Still haven’t answered my question yet.
So you’ve read like 2 posts on CF?
Lets also not act like Fran's been incredibly consistent at making the field either. He had a nice run of 5 years. But before that he made it to the field of 64 twice in the first 8 seasons.
Who's to say this isn't just reverting to the norm after Garza\Murray?
Who's to say this isn't just reverting to the norm after Garza\Murray?
