*** Official #12 IOWA STATE vs #18 Baylor Game(Day) Thread ***

[riceville98]

Actually we gained a time out and the ability to throw the ball in. Just a shame he took one to two tenths too long to shoot that.

Are clock operators local, or brought in with the officials?

I believe they are local. I sat next to one of ISU's retired "table workers" for several years. Great guy and I believe he said all the bench workers are local. unless that's changed in the last 3-4 years.

 

[Dgilbertson]

I assume this is 89 pages of handling things well.

I’m in love with this team. They’re not perfect, but none of TJ’s have been and this one runs laps around the others w/ talent.

LFG

 

[clonedude]

The ball hit his hands with well under 1 second left on the clock. At that point, he's not watching the clock in any meaningful sense - he's simply firing up a shot as fast as he can and hoping it's in time.

Winner! Nobody is looking at the clock in a play like that. Just execute the play as FAST as you possibly can.

 

[Die4Cy]

I assume this is 89 pages of handling things well.

I’m in love with this team. They’re not perfect, but none of TJ’s have been and this one runs laps around the others w/ talent.

LFG

It's 82 pages about the camera angle.

 

[clonedude]

I think if you look at how many points you're getting from the FT line vs your percentage it'll make it palatable. If we go to the line alot even though we might be shooting poorly the sheer volume may compensate. In late stages of the game hope it's CJ or Mom there.

To be fair... had Baylor made their FTs down the stretch, we never would have had a chance to win either. They missed at least 2 front ends of 1 and 1's right at the end.

 

[Peter]

We are gonna destroy Texas. Exactly the kind of team that ISU feeds on.

 

[clonedude]

We are gonna destroy Texas. Exactly the kind of team that ISU feeds on.

Does Texas shoot the 3 well?

 

[madguy30]

I assume this is 89 pages of handling things well.

I’m in love with this team. They’re not perfect, but none of TJ’s have been and this one runs laps around the others w/ talent.

LFG

The best ISU teams ever have had flaws.

What hopefully happens is they can keep things on the rails for this month.

It's interesting--the schedule looked front loaded but the back end won't be much better.

 

[bosco]

Do we think Lipsey is hurt and playing through it? The previous two games before this one masked it a bit with the wins and the jubilation but he's been really unaggressive by Lipsey standards ever since sitting the @TCU game. Forget about scoring, he didn't take a shot in the first half last night.


In real-time I doubt he could even notice a discrepancy of 0.1 seconds. Maybe the buzzer/light going off unexpectedly early would be a distraction, but he hit the shot.

There were lots of officiating blunders in this game but I don't think the clock management here was one of them.

He hasn't been right since the injury. Other players need to put their big boy shorts on and step up.

 

[rosshm16]

All the play stoppages for reviews these days drive me nuts. Ruins the flow of the game to arbitrarily go review some play for 5+ minutes, then all the rules over what can/can't be reviewed means even then they don't necessarily get it right.

I wonder how far we are from computer vision AI-based officiating.

 

[madguy30]

Does Texas shoot the 3 well?

That doesn't seem to matter and ISU focuses their strength to covering other areas.

The defensive version of live and die by the three.

 

[rosshm16]

Teams that don't shoot the three well still shoot the three well against us anyway, it's the nature of the beating our defense (the trap/double is coming, don't panic, swing the ball or get it cross-court and you can get an open three).

 

[AuH2O]

He hasn't been right since the injury. Other players need to put their big boy shorts on and step up.

Hard to say they haven’t done this. 0.1 sec away from going 4-0 including three ranked opponents since his injury.

 

[riceville98]

Exactly. Sometime most people are missing that we wouldn’t get an out of bounds play without the screw up. Clock should have started on the rebound and we’d have been throwing up a half court prayer.

I think tons of our fans are missing the fact that the clock helped us, not hurt us. Things that did hurt us:
- Missed bummies in the first half
- Missed FT's
- Late game shot clock violation. I believe we had 2 shots blocked and didn't realize the low time on the shot clock and that there hadn't been a reset
- The horrible cross court pass that resulted in a huge turnover

We should have never been in a situation to need that late game 3.

 

[riceville98]

I thought at first the buzzer clearly sounded after Milan got the shot off so that was a tough one to swallow.

The buzzer is secondary to the time on the clock and the red lights on the basket. The correct call was made. Shot no good by .1 seconds

 

[clonedude]

Teams that don't shoot the three well still shoot the three well against us anyway, it's the nature of the beating our defense (the trap/double is coming, don't panic, swing the ball or get it cross-court and you can get an open three).

Yeah…. was just wondering how Texas shoots the 3 since we will undoubtedly be giving them wide open looks all night.

 

[clonedude]

I think tons of our fans are missing that the clock helped us, not hurt us. Things that did hurt us:
- Missed bummies in the first half
- Missed FT's
- Late game shot clock violation. I believe we had 2 shots blocked and didn't realize the low time on the shot clock and that there hadn't been a reset
- The horrible cross court pass that resulted in a huge turnover

We should have never been in a situation to need that late game 3.

Not to mention the horrible rebounding by us all night.

 

[madguy30]

The buzzer is secondary to the time on the clock and the red lights on the basket. The correct call was made. Shot no good by .1 seconds

I'm not arguing if it was a legit call or not. In live time I thought he pulled it off and was pretty thrilled to finally see ISU be that team. And then it didn't.

 

[riceville98]

I think he got his two technicals for being out of the coaches box. He was nearly on the three point arc on the first offense.

I would have expected a warning to be issued first though, like they did with TJ last week. Who knows, maybe he got a warning before the T??

 

[clonedude]

The buzzer is secondary to the time on the clock and the red lights on the basket. The correct call was made. Shot no good by .1 seconds

Correct. Wish everyone would stop complaining about the clock…. we were handed a huge gift regarding the clock. Had they not started it too soon after the missed FT, we would have had no chance.

As soon as he missed that FT, we were screwed. In fact, his coach should have instructed him to miss it on purpose in that situation.