Our Endzones Suck

Do you know how hard it is to keep the natural grass doing well toward the end of the football season, especially in the northern midwest? Do you know how much harder it is when you have giant swaths of it completely painted?
Thanks to whoever made up our schedule, the grass field has one month off to recover. The most perfect four weeks of glorious fall weather every year, and no home games.
 
Thanks to whoever made up our schedule, the grass field has one month off to recover. The most perfect four weeks of glorious fall weather every year, and no home games.
To be clear, I was disliking this feature of the schedule not your post.

It is also not lost on me that while it was super hot we ended up with day games and as soon as the weather turns for the cool weather we have a night game. I know how we end up with various kickoff times, it just sucks and since I am a Cyclone fan I am damned well going to ***** about it!
 
Do you know how hard it is to keep the natural grass doing well toward the end of the football season, especially in the northern midwest? Do you know how much harder it is when you have giant swaths of it completely painted?
I'm sure it has to be a complete science, how to take care of the grass on football fields, in different climates and elevations. Especially after painting. I hadn't really thought of it..

Here's an article of how they flip fields, albeit from 2014. I would imagine that these Minnesota fields had/have artificial turf also, so completely different than natural grass.

But are the fields where the Jets/Giants and the Chargers/Rams play on, natural grass? If so, it would be interesting how they safely remove paint from the grass to flip a field, or to just keep the grass healthy.

Letting the grass die and resodding annually can't be the only way. Remember the Super Bowl last year (this Feb, in Arizona)) was played on newly sodded grass, and was supposedly quite a problem for the players.
 
I'm sure it has to be a complete science, how to take care of the grass on football fields, in different climates and elevations. Especially after painting. I hadn't really thought of it..

Here's an article of how they flip fields, albeit from 2014. I would imagine that these Minnesota fields had/have artificial turf also, so completely different than natural grass.

But are the fields where the Jets/Giants and the Chargers/Rams play on, natural grass? If so, it would be interesting how they safely remove paint from the grass to flip a field, or to just keep the grass healthy.

Letting the grass die and resodding annually can't be the only way. Remember the Super Bowl last year (this Feb, in Arizona)) was played on newly sodded grass, and was supposedly quite a problem for the players.
Both of those stadiums use artificial turf. In fact, nearly half of NFL stadiums and the clear majority of FBS stadiums do, which is a genuine travesty.
 
Both of those stadiums use artificial turf. In fact, nearly half of NFL stadiums and the clear majority of FBS stadiums do, which is a genuine travesty.
Contrast the Bud Grant era Vikings of the 'frozen tundra' to the modern Green Bay Packers and their natural grass field. They work very hard to keep it alive during the winter, I'll bet, with the underground heating pipes, etc.

But yes, whenever possible, natural grass is the way to go. The difficulty and cost associated with keeping a natural grass field is undoubtedly why artificial turf is a thing.

Edit: And doesn't Green Bay also have the synthetic webing/plugs weaved into the natural grass, like we now have?
 
Contrast the Bud Grant era Vikings of the 'frozen tundra' to the modern Green bay Packers and their natural grass field. They work very hard to keep it alive during the winter, I'll bet, with the underground heating pipes, etc.

But yes, whenever possible, natural grass is the way to go. The difficulty and cost associated with keeping a natural grass field is undoubtedly why artificial turf is a thing.
I believe the NFL has a requirement for all playing surfaces to be heated if they are in a cold weather climate. TCF Bank Stadium had to install the heat coils/pipes when the Vikings played there for a couple years, even though the field is artificial. As far as I know, the field is still heated. Gophers basically got a free heated field

Side note: The vikings did play a game a NFL game at TCF Stadium prior to the field being heated. They played one game a week or two after the metrodome roof collapsed. Bret Farve was QB for the Vikings, but Farve left the game with a concussion (frozen field likely didn't help..)
 
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Contrast the Bud Grant era Vikings of the 'frozen tundra' to the modern Green Bay Packers and their natural grass field. They work very hard to keep it alive during the winter, I'll bet, with the underground heating pipes, etc.

But yes, whenever possible, natural grass is the way to go. The difficulty and cost associated with keeping a natural grass field is undoubtedly why artificial turf is a thing.

Edit: And doesn't Green Bay also have the synthetic webing/plugs weaved into the natural grass, like we now have?
Yes, they also use grow lights later in the season.

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Contrast the Bud Grant era Vikings of the 'frozen tundra' to the modern Green Bay Packers and their natural grass field. They work very hard to keep it alive during the winter, I'll bet, with the underground heating pipes, etc.

But yes, whenever possible, natural grass is the way to go. The difficulty and cost associated with keeping a natural grass field is undoubtedly why artificial turf is a thing.

Edit: And doesn't Green Bay also have the synthetic webing/plugs weaved into the natural grass, like we now have?
I was on (well standing right next to, they are pretty militant about who gets to actually step ON) the Lambeau field about 10-12 years ago and they already had a plastic netting woven into their natural grass field at that time. It was the first time I had ever seen anything like it.
 
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Yes, they also use grow lights later in the season.

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Allianz Field (MLS, St. Paul, MN) also uses grow lights especially early and late season when the days are shorter.

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I believe the NFL has a requirement for all playing surfaces to be heated if they are in a cold weather climate. TCF Bank Stadium had to install the heat coils/pipes when the Vikings played there for a couple years, even though the field is artificial. As far as I know, the field is still heated. Gophers basically got a free heated field

Side note: The vikings did play a game a NFL game at TCF Stadium prior to the field being heated. They played one game a week or two after the metrodome roof collapsed. Bret Farve was QB for the Vikings, but Farve left the game with a concussion (frozen field likely didn't help..)
They also took extreme measures to try to make sure that TCF field didn't freeze rock hard. They had tarps covering the entire surface with heaters forcing hot air on it, but I think it might have done as much harm as good. As you know when you cover grass the regular respiration of the grass is trapped and traps moisture. As soon as that tarp was removed that moisture froze.

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They also took extreme measures to try to make sure that TCF field didn't freeze rock hard. They had tarps covering the entire surface with heaters forcing hot air on it, but I think it might have done as much harm as good. As you know when you cover grass the regular respiration of the grass is trapped and traps moisture. As soon as that tarp was removed that moisture froze.

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That was field turf, not natural grass, so respiration was not an issue. The problem was when the Vikings played there when the dome collapsed, there were no heating coils under the field, it was just frozen. When the Vikings played there waiting for their new stadium, they had new turf and heating coils installed under it.