Plus it takes so freaking long for the total payoff.
The first took about 12 years without the pandemic.
Edit-They also mostly hit a home run with the casting of the first series, they won't always be that fortunate.
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The first took about 12 years without the pandemic.
Edit-They also mostly hit a home run with the casting of the first series, they won't always be that fortunate.
POLL: Which Of Marvel Studios' INFINITY SAGA Movies Was The Best One?
The Infinity Saga was a truly phenomenal period of storytelling for Marvel Studios and the MCU, but which of those movies do you consider the best of the best? We're giving you the chance to decide here...
This was kind of a fun poll to vote in and see the results so far
I voted for endgame. The character development and acting in that movie is phenomenal. Plus seeing the heroes lose and the dusting, man what a movie. Every time I see it on I stop and watch it.POLL: Which Of Marvel Studios' INFINITY SAGA Movies Was The Best One?
The Infinity Saga was a truly phenomenal period of storytelling for Marvel Studios and the MCU, but which of those movies do you consider the best of the best? We're giving you the chance to decide here...comicbookmovie.com
This was kind of a fun poll to vote in and see the results so far
You may be confusing Endgame with Infinity War. Infinity War is the one where the heroes lose. Endgame is with the time travel and victory against Thanos.
Bingo. Endgame having to use time travel as a plot device was really the start of the MCUs decline.
Honestly I disagree. It was kind of cheesy, but it took us on a review of everywhere we had been over the course of like 20 movies. I thought it was brilliant.
CycloneErik
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I agree here. I didn't have a problem with it. It was enjoyable, and it played into a loooooooong tradition of telling team stories with the team breaking into groups of 1 or 2. Gardner Fox and Roy Thomas would approve.
Time travel is a plot device only used when other ideas in a franchise are exhausted. (Cough Indy 5 Cough) Its lazy story writing and doesn't move the overall narrative along. It also destroys all future plots because "we can just correct that by going back in time."
I will say that Endgame is brilliant cinema compared to some of the Phase 4 disasters that followed it.
Used once, and in this context of also doing kind of a retrospective hop through some of the previous films, I didn't mind it. Becoming a common place plot device just cheapens everything.
Some of the multiverse stuff has been really hamfisted and has the potential to get out of hand quickly. I fully expect the finale of all of this not to contains dozens of different heroes all on the screen at the same time, but like 5 versions of Cap, 8 versions of Ironman. etc. They'll be lots of jokes, like in No Way Home, when someone calls out a name and 4 people will respond to it.
Time travel as a device to get writers out of trouble is lazy. However, this was done intentionally as a way to give us a retrospective on the entire MCU up to that point. We'll have to agree to disagree here.
Now if you want to talk to me about the multiverse stuff, yeah I'm over it. I haven't watched a lot of MCU stuff now. Endgame kind of killed it for me but that's not due to the time travel aspect.
They almost went too much multiverse too quickly. Loki was just beginning to explore the ramifications of it when MoM just kicked the door open. Could have rolled with a whole Earth1/Earth 2 thing for a bit like DC (yes I know DC has more but these were the two main). Even What If... felt more organic in how it was presented. Now everything dealing with the multiverse is just going to be how many different versions of the characters can we show.
They are planning on culminating phase 5 (or 6?) with the Secret Wars plotline. Given the financial shape Disney is in right now, it wouldn't surprise me if they busted out the check book and brought back as many former MCU folks back in as they can. Its likely their last chance for many of them.
Not only that, but it's probably going to be how they replace most of the current actors with new ones. Here's this new 20-something actor playing an alternate Captain America fighting along side Chris Evans' version. Guess who survives the final battle? Ain't going to be Chris's. Battle over. Multiverse closed. New group moves forward.
If you thought a singular time travel plot was bad wait until they lean into the multiverse.
