Another Manning S^*T sandwich

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Meanwhile K-State up 35-0 at half on Okie St with their backup qb. You can’t tell me K-State has better talent than us other than at rb

KSU is so much better coached than us it's not funny.

Football has ALWAYS been won in the trenches.... and always will be. Our DL is good.... our OL is atrocious. That's why we see the results we see. Defense good, offense terrible. Pretty simple.

If we don't get a lot better on OL... nothing will improve.
 

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You really think manning is gonna take a pay cut to be OL coach LOL.
His *** would be fired before dinner tonite if I were running this show. He is an absolute abomination. It is nothing short of grand theft that he is paid $925,000 a year to “coach”. My family member Kesha can coach better than him. Btw, Kesha is purring at my feet right now…she’s a feline
 
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Golesh was here on staff, maybe we should have given him a chance? Sometimes high risk is high reward.

Continuing with this known crap is absolutely inexcusable.

Get ready for a huge dropoff in tickets, interest, and recruits.

Golesh also went to UCF to learn under Huepel.

Hate to break it to you but as long as Campbell is the coach we aren't going to run a high powered offense like Huepel did at UCF and is at Tenn.

I love Campbell but he is to much like Ferentz when it comes to offense.
 

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You say Manning is over his head running the entire offense but then want to promote Scheelhasse to OC. Scheelhaase has never been anything more than a position coach, but you don't think he'd be in over his head running the entire offense?

We always see all this hype for Scheelhasse, but its coming from the same places that say "this year is the year our OL won't suck", so maybe that should be tempered a bit
 
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We always see all this hype for Scheelhasse, but its coming from the same places that say "this year is the year our OL won't suck", so maybe that should be tempered a bit
Good point. No idea if Scheelhaase the guy, and there are a lot of sunshine-pumpers in the ISU media, so the hype around his abilities could be overblown.

But what ISU is doing now on offense clearly isn't working, and the o-line has been a problem every year since Campbell got here. Would love it if Manning had the humility to take a step back and focus on what he excels at, which is o-line coaching, and let someone else take over play-calling.
 

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Tom Manning, where he won an offensive line coach of the year award in 2015 before coming to ISU. Guy can clearly coach the offensive line, but is in over his head running the entire offense. Hoping Campbell takes an honest evaluation this offseason, moves Manning to O-line, and either promotes Scheelhaase to offensive coordinator or finds an outside candidate, like he did when he poached Dave Andrews from Pitt.
That award isn't really proof of anything. Having a good NFL back on your team can make anyone look good, especially in the MAC.
 

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Good point. No idea if Scheelhaase the guy, and there are a lot of sunshine-pumpers in the ISU media, so the hype around his abilities could be overblown.

But what ISU is doing now on offense clearly isn't working, and the o-line has been a problem every year since Campbell got here. Would love it if Manning had the humility to take a step back and focus on what he excels at, which is o-line coaching, and let someone else take over play-calling.
What proof is there that he actually excels at coaching an O-line?

I mean, he's the OC. Wouldn't he be getting involved if he had some natural gift? What is he doing at practice? Watching them suck and not doing anything?
 

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His *** would be fired before dinner tonite if I were running this show. He is an absolute abomination. It is nothing short of grand theft that he is paid $925,000 a year to “coach”. My family member Kesha can coach better than him. Btw, Kesha is purring at my feet right now…she’s a feline
Okay and that’s weird just saying lol
 

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Golesh also went to UCF to learn under Huepel.

Hate to break it to you but as long as Campbell is the coach we aren't going to run a high powered offense like Huepel did at UCF and is at Tenn.

I love Campbell but he is to much like Ferentz when it comes to offense.
Then this team is doomed and an adjustment needs to be made. Nobody is going to want to come play receiver in a KF style offense. We are never going to be able to compete with high powered offenses or come from behind if we are a one-dimensional team.

Not only that, it will be boring and frustrating football to watch. Much like....today's horrible game.

Kids want to play in high octane and fast paced offenses. Defensive players want to put up stats. Those are facts of the modern game.

If CMC does indeed want to continue on this path, say goodbye to quality recruits.
 
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I feel sorry for our defense. They are playing winning football on their side but then offense and special teams screw them every week.
And with this low level of offensive production, defense has to be nearly flawless or be stout AND extremely good at getting turnovers (and sometimes scoring directly) ... the latter of which is not the unit's strong suit, over several years.
 

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Golesh also went to UCF to learn under Huepel.

Hate to break it to you but as long as Campbell is the coach we aren't going to run a high powered offense like Huepel did at UCF and is at Tenn.

I love Campbell but he is to much like Ferentz when it comes to offense.
High-powered offense in the Big-12 is scoring mid-30s or more. If ISU could just score upper 20s, they would have 3-4 conference wins.
 

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And with this low level of offensive production, defense has to be nearly flawless or be stout AND extremely good at getting turnovers (and sometimes scoring directly) ... the latter of which is not the unit's strong suit, over several years.
Which I would argue can also be part of the problem. I'd prefer more risks going for turnovers that result in shorter fields, like Iowa does.