AJ Green Leaves the Portal - Staying in Draft

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All I know is HORNS DOWN....wrong thread?
There is always room for horns down, as I learned when we were playing OU in Ames back in the Big 8 days before Texas was even in the league. Oklahoma fans were 1,000 miles away from Austin and playing a different team, but they still had Texas on their minds.
 

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The "kicker" of the frame story in Titanic is that Rose left the drawing in a safe in her stateroom. I wonder if a real 1912-vintage safe like that would survive 12,500 feet of water pressure on top of it.
It wasn't waterproof so wouldn't it fill up with water as the ship was going down so the pressure inside and outside would be equalized? It was clear that it had had water in it when they opened it in the movie.
 

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It wasn't waterproof so wouldn't it fill up with water as the ship was going down so the pressure inside and outside would be equalized? It was clear that it had had water in it when they opened it in the movie.

Wouldn't a sketch on a piece of paper be long gone then by the 1990s?

Saltwater tends to degrade things.
 

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Wouldn't a sketch on a piece of paper be long gone then by the 1990s?

Saltwater tends to degrade things.
Yeah, I have thought the same thing there. It probably made sense that the drawing would last longer than the other papers in the safe since he probably used parchment or vellum for drawing, but lasting for 85 years? Perhaps being at extreme depth and cold would help as well as being somewhat protected by a leather folio, but I kind of doubt it.
 

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Yeah, I have thought the same thing there. It probably made sense that the drawing would last longer than the other papers in the safe since he probably used parchment or vellum for drawing, but lasting for 85 years? Perhaps being at extreme depth and cold would help as well as being somewhat protected by a leather folio, but I kind of doubt it.

Ballard and company obviously found no bodies/organic material on the wreck when they discovered it, but they did surprisingly find a large amount of shoes in recognizable shape --

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/threads/graveyard-of-shoes.18626/

The shoes were theorized to have been left there before people jumped into the water or have stayed with bodies that stayed on the wreck and remained after the bodies vaporized.

So maybe treated leather products can survive under those conditions? Shoe leather and parchment are not the same materials, though, and there is also the issue of even if the paper survives the drawing might be somehow degraded or "dissolved" in the seawater. Graphite is water soluble but charcoal is not (or at least that is my understanding), so I suppose it matters what Jack used to draw the image.
 

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Is there a way to set a notification or something on this thread when he makes a decision? I've been wasting weeks of my life already opening this thread hoping for some news.
 

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Ballard and company obviously found no bodies/organic material on the wreck when they discovered it, but they did surprisingly find a large amount of shoes in recognizable shape --

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/threads/graveyard-of-shoes.18626/

The shoes were theorized to have been left there before people jumped into the water or have stayed with bodies that stayed on the wreck and remained after the bodies vaporized.

So maybe treated leather products can survive under those conditions? Shoe leather and parchment are not the same materials, though, and there is also the issue of even if the paper survives the drawing might be somehow degraded or "dissolved" in the seawater. Graphite is water soluble but charcoal is not (or at least that is my understanding), so I suppose it matters what Jack used to draw the image.
In the movie he appears to be sharpening charcoal with a knife, but I am no expert.

As far as the leather drawing folio, there was a leather satchel recovered from the real Titanic.

 

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There will be many other threads beyond this one when he makes his decision, including an article from Jared or Chris

I'm assuming we'll get a prompt on Patreon telegraphing the news, too, either way.
 

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Is there a way to set a notification or something on this thread when he makes a decision? I've been wasting weeks of my life already opening this thread hoping for some news.
This thread probably won’t break the news. I’m sure there will be another on when the time comes.

EDIT: Sorry…didn’t see @bawbie response, which is basically the same thing. I’m just an echo chamber over here :)
 
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Is there a way to set a notification or something on this thread when he makes a decision? I've been wasting weeks of my life already opening this thread hoping for some news.
AJG has said from the beginning that he will probably take it to the deadline. So I assume he will have a decision made sometime in the next week, so you can ignore this thread for a while.
 
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