Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

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Yeah, I'm lost , I have no idea what you're on about here. If colleges want to hand out scholarships for non revenue generating sports why would anyone want to stop that?

Major conference football and basketball is a business, period. I'm surprised that's a controversial take.

Spend non revenue generating sports money for the professional players NIL fees. It’s a business. Title lX can take a hike.
 

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Look, it absolutely sucks if Hunter leaves, but the amount of “woe is me” in this thread for when one of our guys surprisingly transfers out when this forum has an entire transfer thread of people wanting to poach the top guys from mid-major schools is as ironic as irony can get. You can’t use the transfer portal to help build your own program from smaller fish and then cry wolf when a bigger fish does the same to you. It sucks when it happens to you, but that’s the game.
 

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I might be the only one but I hope he sucks at his next stop and gets stuck behind someone else.
I don't hope for that at all, but if it does happen I won't feel bad for him when he was set up to be the guy here and instead chased money. That's just consequences of his actions coming back to bite him.

But yeah, saying you hope for that it kinda sucky
 

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I just hope 'something' truthful comes out, that it is reported telling it like it is (NIL worth) so its not just viewed as..."oh, he must not have been happy at ISU, etc.,etc."
 
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I just hope 'something' truthful comes out, that it is reported telling it like it is (NIL worth) so its not just viewed as..."oh, he must not have been happy at ISU, etc.,etc."
And if he ends up at Kansas or in conference, that will stink even worse. Somebody mentioned on one of the threads, think Big10. Did they have a reason for saying that?
 

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With young kids, last year I went to one football game, enjoyed myself, drank heavily to make up for only being at one game. Argued all the way home with 2 buddies (as one of their mom and dads drove us) that NIL is the end of college sports 5 years from now it will be semi-pro. Looks like I was optimistic on the 5 years. TH leaving kind of ends the recruiting hope for schools like ISU, kind of like the transfer portal ruined mid/low-majors. Iowa State doesn't stand a chance in the pay for play.

One single player, who didn't originally commit to this staff, ends the recruiting hope for Iowa State? Relationships are important, and while I would have hoped there was a strong relationship established throughout the year, it seems weird Hunter hasn't been in Ames since the tournament ended for us. I don't think this will be the norm with TJ having a 2-3 year relationship with high school recruits.
 
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**** NIL and **** all the people pre-NIL who said it would be good for college athletics (you know who you are). The truth is we let the lion out of the cage without any safety measures in place. There should have been rules, caps, contracts, etc. to help keep things in order before just saying "**** it" and having a free-for-all cluster****. I would think some of our old Cyclone greats who bleed cardinal and gold are probably disgusted with this whole new world.
 

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I'm watching my interest in college sports fade right before my eyes. Why watch minor league sports when the pros are right there already? alarson nailed it, the value has always been the schools and the attachment of the fans to those schools. Hard to feel attached to a bunch of mercenaries who are just here for a year to audition for the next best thing.

Are you telling me you didn’t enjoy watching brockerton help lead you to the sweet 16? Because I loved watching K9 lead us to an 11 win football season

Considering a one year transfer was a major part of your basketball team exceeding all expectations and making the sweet 16 I’m kinda shocked this many people are talking about no longer watching their team
FS, The lack of responses to you in the last couple of pages should tell you all you need to know. You and Michigan State are currently in one of the remaining two elite $money$ conferences. How could you be expected to understand what ISU fans feel like or are about to feel like in the next few years? Of course things can change. But the present trajectory does not look good for many of us.

The college football and basketball landscape is changing and for the worse. That is going to be the perspective of the "have-nots" in this new landscape and world. Fan opinion and fandom is bound to change. ISU is in the have-not category along with the majority of other colleges and universities not belonging to the BIG or the SEC. Enjoy your time at the top. For the rest of us it is a different point of view entirely.

Of course you don't understand. How could you?

The sky isn't falling yet but it's pretty cloudy, stormy, and with worsening conditions over the next indefinite period of time. Enjoy your super conference, the NIL, and the minor league of pro sports (for some) / and what's left of college athletics or whatever it is going to be called now. It is no longer the same college athletics of yesteryear.
 
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**** NIL and **** all the people pre-NIL who said it would be good for college athletics (you know who you are). The truth is we let the lion out of the cage without any safety measures in place. There should have been rules, caps, contracts, etc. to help keep things in order before just saying "**** it" and having a free-for-all cluster****. I would think some of our old Cyclone greats who bleed cardinal and gold are probably disgusted with this whole new world.

ISU will be fine. If you want to be mad be mad at the people who let it come to this. Where our best response to a player looking for an NIL deal is “we’ll have it figured out in a couple months”.
 

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Since I sometimes raise some people’s ire, here’s one more thought. Those of you that are buying that our athletes are grossly underpaid, I will ask you to take a look at US corporations. For a company like John Deere, Ford Motor, or Amazon and many others, there are a significant number of employees that are needed in the production of their products. Think workers on the factory floors and warehouse employees. For the most part they make middle class wages, yet the companies profit millions.

Where is your angst for this arrangement? Are the factory workers unlike these exploited athletes? How so? Or maybe this is just sometimes how our world works. Maybe life isn’t always “fair”. Some of us consider our athletes more as “journeyman” needing to work their way onward. They and you may diss the value of a college degree but I know several people that have benefitted from having one. I also know several people that have benefitted from a middle class factory wage. Some times it just how you play the cards one has been dealt.

Everyone likes to talk about how someone is or has struck it rich. Don’t know anyone that doesn’t wish for a taste of the ”good life”. At the end of the day most people just do the best they can, and really don’t have it so bad at all, just like to think the grass is greener in some other pasture.
 

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There are options outside of hoping he sucks and cheering for him, such as doing nothing.

It’s like no when a co-worker leaves a job to work for a competitor. Do I want them to have wild success? Probably not. Do I want them to completely fail and end up homeless? Definitely not. Just have to respect their decision to put themselves in a better situation for them.

Hunter seems like a great kid that didn’t come from much….I don’t blame him one but if he leaves for money.
 
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good god, it is the opposite. ISU can't afford to not be very organized and direct and funnel donor money to NIL while also avoid tragedy of the commons on the small donor level.
NIL is fundamentally a donation to the department, and by far the best one. Not even close. Just what exactly do you think the ultimate point of donations are?
Donations - facilities, maintenance, coaches salaries, staff salaries, nutrition, tutors, scholarships, equipment, travel, debt service, medical staff and services. I am certain I forgot some. None of these go away or decrease if you funnel money to NIL and take away from these items. I get your point, but it would work far better if your program has an excess of cash. We do not. Our TV revenue will soon not even be close to b10 and SEC $. Unregulated NIL is extremely bad for ISU and many other teams. Heck - we hired TJ on the cheap with Covid as an excuse. We are going to have to boost him a bunch SOON. I will continue to support ISU to the best of my ability. It is a priority to me.
But I fail to see us being highly successful in the environment we are sliding into. I believe the fact is - we cannot solve NIL by reallocation of existing dollars. We need new dollars - and for ISU that is not easy.
 

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**** NIL and **** all the people pre-NIL who said it would be good for college athletics (you know who you are). The truth is we let the lion out of the cage without any safety measures in place. There should have been rules, caps, contracts, etc. to help keep things in order before just saying "**** it" and having a free-for-all cluster****. I would think some of our old Cyclone greats who bleed cardinal and gold are probably disgusted with this whole new world.
I think a lot of those folks pictured players getting a couple hundred bucks for a Saturday afternoon at a car dealer promo event or a player making a little coin from a commercial for a local veterinarian. I think most of the “good for college athletics” folks just didn’t have the foresight or the imagination to see how bad and stupid this would become.

The NCAA evolving and innovating with the changing times could have avoided this. Alas, the guys running that organization are making bank, and by wanting nothing to change, they helped usher in the dumbest of all changes.
 

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And if he ends up at Kansas or in conference, that will stink even worse. Somebody mentioned on one of the threads, think Big10. Did they have a reason for saying that?
That was me. I said my GUESS was B10. I have zero inside info. Reason for my guess - b10 has lots of wealthy programs and donor base, he is from the b10 footprint, the b10 has struggled to compete at the highest levels recently. There are going to be donor bases who want to buy their way into being relevant. Do not read more into my opinion than what is there - just a guess.