It would also be nice to play our way into the 4/5 game in KC. I don't want to play Texas Tech again 
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Well not a list of just p5 (also this list is teams undefeated overall, couldn't find one for just non con, data from Wikipedia)There may not be one but id also like a list of undefeated non-con P5 teams to miss the tourney. Lists are probably both 0.
There may not be one but id also like a list of undefeated non-con P5 teams to miss the tourney. Lists are probably both 0.
Think it’s been posted elsewhere that worst conference record to ever get an at large bid was -4 and it was one of Orr’s teams in the 80s.
I think 7-11 in conference puts us in very safe territory. I think 8-10 - which probably puts us 5th in the conference - gives us a decent seed. Really want to stay off that 8/9 line as not many teams this year scare me once you get past the top 4 or 5.
TCU was 13-0 to start the season in 2015 and did not get a bid at 18 overall wins, that’s why most are saying we need 1 more win and we’re set.
You should post a bracket and tell the guy who runs bracketmatrix.comI went through yesterday and took a brief look at resumes, and put us on the 6 line coming into today. You could even have an argument for higher as I'm not sure Ohio State or LSU have a better resume than we do. Also, I got 16/16 right in matching the committee's seed release, so...
Other teams will be fading over the next two weeks which will help us. OU is done, tcu finishes big 12 with the schedule we started with, Oregon just lost and plays the LA schools this week... one win and we avoid the roller coaster these other teams will be riding.
The WV game is so huge because it's a chance to not only solidify tourney hopes, it's a chance to really get rolling again. A 3 game winning streak, I think, would turn into 5 with KState and Okie State to follow. That's a good place to be with confidence going into Big 12 Tournament which is suddenly looking like a lot of fun for us again.
I feel the same way. Winning against WV takes some pressure off and lessens the chance of us playing tight. @KST will be a dogfight, then we have senior night. Would hate to be going to Waco needing a win.The WV game is so huge because it's a chance to not only solidify tourney hopes, it's a chance to really get rolling again. A 3 game winning streak, I think, would turn into 5 with KState and Okie State to follow. That's a good place to be with confidence going into Big 12 Tournament which is suddenly looking like a lot of fun for us again.
Oregon will be interesting. They beat both LA schools on the road and now get them at home.
I don’t think too many think we can lose out and get in. I think people saying ISU is a lock are making the assumption they win at least one considering the schedule. Would be awesome to get on a roll and get to a 7, but get in and that’s incredible.TCU was 13-0 to start the season in 2015 and did not get a bid at 18 overall wins, that’s why most are saying we need 1 more win and we’re set.
If we finish 2-2 with home wins and road losses (most likely imo) for a 7-11 conf record, then the season for me will have come down to the home losses against KSU and TCU. Those were unacceptable, and the only reason I will walk away from the regular season a little dissatisfied. Turning those should-be wins into losses possibly moved us from a 5 or 6 seed to a 7 or 8 seed.
If we finish 2-2 with home wins and road losses (most likely imo) for a 7-11 conf record, then the season for me will have come down to the home losses against KSU and TCU. Those were unacceptable, and the only reason I will walk away from the regular season a little dissatisfied. Turning those should-be wins into losses possibly moved us from a 5 or 6 seed to a 7 or 8 seed.
Johnny's 5-9 team beat #3 seed Missouri to make the semifinals. Doubt they would of made the dance without it.Must admit, a week and a half ago and you were to mention NCAA’s I would’ve scoffed at the notion. Now, I agree—a couple more wins should cinch it. Now, to get a victory or two in KC would make the momentum going to the big dance good (however in history past, Big 12 wins in the tournament carries little leverage with the committee unless you win the whole damn thing). Worst case scenario, say we tank the rest of the way you still got a National Invitational Tournament bid assured right now.