12/17 Official Coaching Search Thread

just got on the board to check out rumors concerning the coaching search, and saw Pat Hill's name in the mix. Currently living in the Fresno area and following the team closely for the last four years, I have mixed feeelings with this news. I actually have met Pat Hill on a couple of occasions and usually we ended up discussing my loyalties to ISU. Based on my experience he is a great guy, very loyal, very ethical, and VERY stubborn. He has worn out his welcome here in Fresno, and most everyone is calling for his head. In fact many of my friends here where kidding me that ISU could do FSU a favor and hire Hill. Much of this has come due to the fact that he is extremely stubborn and will not change his play calling, personal decisions, offense scheme, defense scheme, etc. The fans have watched Boise, Nevada, etc change their offense based on personel in order to put a more effective and desirable product on the field. He has not won an outright WAC conference championship. In his defense he has lost 3-4? OC in the last 5 years to bigger schools (Cal, North Carolina, Alabama) and that has hurt from a continuity standpoint. They left for greener pastures as an assistant coach at FSU does not make very much. One thing I think Hill would like is the bigger budget that comes with a BCS conferance school. We could do worse than Hill, but bottom line is I am not extremely excited about him as a hire either. Ironically, I am moving back to Iowa in one week and if we do hire him I continue to get a dose of Hill's brand of football.

Good information.

One thing Hill has done with Fresno State it to turn the football program from an academic laughingstock to one of the best academically in the WAC. I do believe he had ethics in spades. From what you're saying, he probably believes there is a right way to do things, and he knows what that is and won't stray from it. For an ethical standpoint, that's great. Don't want him cutting corners, etc. From a football standpoint, the game changes and you've got to adapt. Maybe his stubborness limits his coaching.
 
you are a jerk....Jeff Johnson (while embarrassing some with his cheers) does more for ISU > you ever dreamed of, is a great ambassador to the university, and does far more than just getting donations.

Hey Jeff.... Didn't know you were a member on CF. Love those cheers. :skeptical:
 
Hey Jeff.... Didn't know you were a member on CF. Love those cheers. :skeptical:

I agree with Palmer on this. Why bag on Jeff? Funny how the chants that he brought the first year he did that are still the most popular. Cyclone... Power... Not sure why so many get pissed at Jeff.
 
I think the chants are ghey but Jeff seems to be a good guy. I just arrive 2 minutes before the game starts and i don;t have any problems with the cheers.
 
Not a fan of Jeff Johnson. I'll leave it at that.

But you're not a fan of him leading chants before games right? Or is there something he's not doing well as President of the Alumni Association? Big difference in my book. I don't like having somebody lead chants pre-game. But I admire Jeff's body of work.
 
If you knew him..and obviously you don't.

You wouldn't call him a fool.

Get over it. He makes us look like we are having a high school pep rally rather then playing a Division 1A major college football game. That is all I was saying.

Why does everyone have to be so damn touchy on here? There are way too many emotions floating around.
 
Get over it. He makes us look like we are having a high school pep rally rather then playing a Division 1A major college football game. That is all I was saying.

Why does everyone have to be so damn touchy on here? There are way too many emotions floating around.
Have we played a major college football game since he's been here?
 
Get over it. He makes us look like we are having a high school pep rally rather then playing a Division 1A major college football game. That is all I was saying.

Why does everyone have to be so damn touchy on here? There are way too many emotions floating around.

I love how someone joking about Johnson being our next coach ends up with this...:eek:

You can tell there aren't any good rumors out there.
 
has nothing to do with being touchy...rather you being an idiot.

Palmer you are being no better. I assume you don't know Cyclonestate78 and you call him an idiot. You are basing this off of his actions. Cyclonestate78 calls Jeff Johnson a fool, and I doubt he has ever met JJ. Neither of you should call names, just word your critiques around what you don't like rather than the general dislike about said person.

If that doesn't work, "Momma said don't say nuthin' about somebody if you can't say sumpthin' nice."
 
But you're not a fan of him leading chants before games right? Or is there something he's not doing well as President of the Alumni Association? Big difference in my book. I don't like having somebody lead chants pre-game. But I admire Jeff's body of work.

We were making fun of the chants. Read my earlier post which only references the chants and cheers of Jeff before the games. Then people had to get all emotional about it like I am calling him the devil or something?

As a fan it is embarrassing to sit in the stands while the other teams fans laugh at Iowa State cause we have a guy that has to lead cheers for us. It's sad in my opinion and yes I do think Jeff looks like a fool when he is out there. Sorry Palmer if that offends you. Geez...... Thought people had thicker skin then this??
 
Palmer you are being no better. I assume you don't know Cyclonestate78 and you call him an idiot. You are basing this off of his actions. Cyclonestate78 calls Jeff Johnson a fool, and I doubt he has ever met JJ. Neither of you should call names, just word your critiques around what you don't like rather than the general dislike about said person.

If that doesn't work, "Momma said don't say nuthin' about somebody if you can't say sumpthin' nice."


That's true.

retracted.
 
Palmer you are being no better. I assume you don't know Cyclonestate78 and you call him an idiot. You are basing this off of his actions. Cyclonestate78 calls Jeff Johnson a fool, and I doubt he has ever met JJ. Neither of you should call names, just word your critiques around what you don't like rather than the general dislike about said person.

If that doesn't work, "Momma said don't say nuthin' about somebody if you can't say sumpthin' nice."
And I'm rubber and you're glue.....
 
We were making fun of the chants. Read my earlier post which only references the chants and cheers of Jeff before the games. Then people had to get all emotional about it like I am calling him the devil or something?

As a fan it is embarrassing to sit in the stands while the other teams fans laugh at Iowa State cause we have a guy that has to lead cheers for us. It's sad in my opinion and yes I do think Jeff looks like a fool when he is out there. Sorry Palmer if that offends you. Geez...... Thought people had thicker skin then this??



perhaps a little thinned skinned....I know him well.
 
But you're not a fan of him leading chants before games right? Or is there something he's not doing well as President of the Alumni Association? Big difference in my book. I don't like having somebody lead chants pre-game. But I admire Jeff's body of work.

Don't like the chants, but that's not why.

I do appreciate his fundraising.

Comes down to an incident involving Jeff. More of a personal matter.
 

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