Can you translate that last sentence for me? Not sure what you were going for there.
KU reportedly hiring Buffalo's Leipold (not Monken)
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Who wants to tell him that Nebby isn't much better than KU right now?
But here we have it - he's a KU MBB fan, she's a NE FB fan. I guess I should have expected that.
Had a friend at ISU. ISU student, Nebby football fan, and KU basketball fan. He took a lot of **** from his friends. And this was in the early 2000s when we finally beat Nebby in football.
when in person visits presume as they are and game day visits resume, Leipold will understand what he’s up against. Kansas’ game day atmosphere is about as loud as an Iowa 4A high school not named valley or dowling -
As a comparison to the "optimism" in that special 2019 season in Lawrence, in year 8 of the Walden era, (his final season) one where we went 0-10-1, we STILL averaged over 35k per game...at a time when the facilities were FCS quality.
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1994 Iowa State Cyclones football team - Wikipedia
It kind of sounds like KU fans are spoiled by basketball and expect rebuilding football to be just as easy and being good at basketball.
A good bball coach can rebuild a basketball program in 1 or 2 years. Look at Chris Beard killing it and quickly.
Rebuilding a football team takes multiple seasons. The difference being between 13 scholarships and 85. You can make strides in a couple years, but if you are building from almost nothing, it can take 4 or 5 years minimum.
KU restarting the process every 2 or 3 years kills any chance at consistency.
Now, all of THAT hinges on fans actually giving a **** about football, which KU is also not doing well at.
I'll give ISU in the 90s as an example. We didn't have great attendance before Dan McCarney because we had more than a decade of terrible football. The first thing Dan had to do was get fans to give a **** about football. That takes time but it's all about baby steps. Having a generational player like Troy Davis helped a lot. We didn't win a ton with him, but it was better than the abyss of football prior.
Dan was able to have some success, even if it wasn't always consistent, but he had limitations in where he could take ISU. So our AD went with a splash hire with Gene Chizik, who was considered a very good choice. He brought in some good recruits but had trouble winning without the level of talent he was used to as a DC at Texas and Auburn. He left for Auburn like a thief in the night and that was that.
Paul Rhoads was definitely more of a rah rah coach. He motivated talented players he inherited and the fan base and briefly showed us what ISU could be capable of. He was a lot like McCarney in the end and after a promising start, he lost steam.
But his efforts built the fanbase and gameday atmosphere to a point where it actually impressed the opposing coach. That coach was Toledo's Matt Campbell. He stated he remembered the fanbase and atmosphere at Jack Trice when Pollard approached him about the job. Matt has fueled that existing fire and taken the program to where it it now.
So in essence, it might be a 10 year, 2 or 3 coach stint before KU is actually decent at football. But they need the leadership to know what to build and how to build it for football.
You are correct except the 10 year stint to be decent. Dan McCarney turned ISU into a 9-3 team in his 5th year. I think if KU can get to a bowl in 4 or 5 years that will be success. That's why I think this is the best hire KU has made in football. They hired a gritty football coach instead of a big name or a so-called great recruiter. They gave him a 6 year contract. This seems like the first logical football hire in a long time for KU. It's going to take time and KU's new AD knows that.
I married a woman who grew up in Omaha and we now live in Omaha. What does that have to do with anything?
Man, you guys sure seem to have a lot of precon eived notions about exactly what fans are and are not allowed to do. It must be exhausting to carry all that baggage.
We have a phenomenal coach who is highly desired because we aren't a **** fan base like you.
Overall, I'd say this was a solid hire for Ku. They got a qualified head coach rather than settling for an assistant. I'm not sure why he took the worst P5 job in the land other than confidence and retirement planning. But he has and credit is due Ku's new athletic director. We'll see how Liepold does in Lawrence.
The retread that doesn't care about football thinks he knows all the football answers.
This is great.
This is great.
You claimed les would have them in a bowl game in 2 years. I think you know nothing about anything.
Nah; some folks in the state of Iowa just work really hard to find validation of their assumptions about KU basketball fans and NU football fans. It's Ok that you don't see it.
Hiring coaches is a roll of the dice. You hope you find a good fit, pray you hit a grand slam and deal with however it plays out.
