Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?
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Not true but not false either. He was shady, but also wasn’t blatantly / idiotically cheating.
Lol. I guess paying recruits, paying for Royce White’s babies Enfamil, contacting players at other schools before they announced they’re transferring isn’t cheating now.
TJ Otz for High School, Matt A for Transfers.
Question for JP is what he wants for ISU moving forward.
Not to avocate for either Coach but since this thread has boiled down to the debate of these 2 if hired:
Hoiberg
Pro - quicker turn around. The transfer landscape has changed from his first stint but actually could be to his (and Matt A's) benefit. He has already shown an ability to get transfers in this new era to NEB. Fred is still a name in MBB and would improve the likely hood some of the high end players stay (Bolton, Xavier, Hunter) Plus its likely they won't have to wait on a sit out year for the players to contribute. Could possibly bring some high end transfers from Lincoln right away.
Con - Fred does have health concerns and there is the possiblity it would be a short run if he gets the pro itch or just decides he'd done with coaching. He's not a lifer IMO even if he's successful. Cost. still not sure about paying a buyout and a comprable salaray that he's currently getting.
Otzelberger
Pros - Proven MW recruiter and has gotten talent to UNLV. Long history with JP and ISU. He would likely be in for the long haul to build and stay if successful. I would guess the contract would be in the bottom 2-3 of the Big 12 considering his current resume. Would need to pay for very good Asst coaches to help him get a foot hold.
Cons - Doesn't have the name that Fred has so much more difficult to keep current players and hit early on transfers.
Likey ISU will be in the bottom of the B12 for 2-3 years as he gets the program going IMO. While he had some success at SDSU with a ready made roster hasn't demonstrated in the MWC yet (early) is he ready for the B12 coach compition? Will the fans accept a slow build after these past couple of years?
When I think of bag men I think of guys dropping thousands of dollars for guys, not paying for someone’s baby formula. But you’re probably right.
You should hear what Matt A offered Rashad Vaughn only to be topped by UNLV’s $100k
I guess I wouldn’t be surprised. You’re right you’re right. He constantly helped guys pay rent because they’d always blow the $$ they got from ISU. Lol
I wonder if Ross is embarrassed by his father?But they're already insufferable so does that change anything?
Jesus, Gunner, how long does it take you to blow out all the eerie candles blazing in your Hoiberg shrine?
Jesus, Gunner, how long does it take you to blow out all the eerie candles blazing in your Hoiberg shrine?
4-Ever means 4-Ever
Any Iowa State basketball coach will live under the Fred shadow...always.
But success will make that shadow smaller
But success will make that shadow smaller
So we can replace those ugly "green" uniforms? I'm all for it!
Fred and Jamie went on KXNO to refute it. Fred says (paraphrasing), “I talked to Travis earlier this week and told him it wasn’t true and not to run the story.” But in the article, it says “Hoiberg wasn’t available for comment.”
Reading between the lines: Hoiberg was almost certainly one of the anonymous sources. He had some peeves, and was trying to shift some of the heat he was feeling to Pollard. When it blew up, he walked it back.
The salary complaint was that he signed a 10-year contract and JP used the average to say he was in the top X of coaches in the Big 12 when his actual salary for the year was 8th or 9th in conference.
Usually bag men aren’t directly affiliated with the program, for plausible deniability for the coaching staff. They just overhear from some programs who needs what and make it happen in the background.
