NO FANS AT CYCLONE GAMES?

[DeereClone]

i can see this labeled as Covid related still. Unless there is a very clear cause of the fall Covid could have contributed to balance issues, weakness, unknown stroke that lead to fall, etc. I would definitely list it as at least contributing.



It would still get listed as a contributing factor most likely. Unless the die from a car wreck or something. If the die of a heart attack and had influenza, even minimally symptomatic, it gets listed as a contriving cause. What’s to say the stress from the influenza virus didn’t contribute to the heart attack for example. What most people get is that unless there is an autopsy, cause of death is often a crap shoot and is often a list of a few connected conditions culminating in an ultimate cause that is the best educated guess based on any symptoms, known history, and test results. And then contributing factors are also listed. Covid could be in either of these places just like flu and make the death report. It’s nothing nefarious or conspiracy based. No one pressures me to put Covid, not Covid, or anything else on a death certificate.

Are you a coroner or something? I might have missed that earlier in the thread.

 

[Jayshellberg]

That is a prediction, it was at the end of March.

To know if it is a fact today we would have to know the number of covid listed deaths that were actually the cause of covid and not other ailments they had, or how many were going to die soon anyway. I had a distant relative who had cancer reappear and rejected chemotherapy to live longer and was given a short time to live. He contracted contracted covid. He was listed as a covid death.

And I have a friend who died of COVID, but they listed it as congestive heart failure. That proves that the COVID related deaths are understated.

 

[bluestarcyclone]

And I have a friend who died of COVID, but they listed it as congestive heart failure. That proves that the COVID related deaths are understated.

And there's a lot more evidence of this being the case given some of the excess 'pneumonia' deaths we've seen reported.

 

[Cyclad]

Its pretty simple, if covid has been here longer the mortality rate was lower and the disease was not a threat to overrunning our healthcare system.

I already pointed out;
Flu deaths 2019 34,500 (12 months)
Covid deaths 2020 120,000 (4-5 months)
This is a big deal.

 

[Jer]

Tell me again that we don’t have a problem of our own making.

 

[motorcy90]

Regardless of my personal opinion on this issue, do you really believe there will be many people who have not been exposed to the virus multiple times during the 8 months it's been in the US (before September)? By the time football hits I would imagine everyone that's set foot outside their home has come in contact with it many times.

hell myself and coworkers are pretty damn sure we had it back in February.. all the symptoms of it. negative on strep and flu... sickest I have ever been for a few weeks..... doc said probably an unknown respiratory virus at the time..

 

[NEPatriotscy]

That is a prediction, it was at the end of March.

To know if it is a fact today we would have to know the number of covid listed deaths that were actually the cause of covid and not other ailments they had, or how many were going to die soon anyway. I had a distant relative who had cancer reappear and rejected chemotherapy to live longer and was given a short time to live. He contracted contracted covid. He was listed as a covid death.

You live in another universe.

 

[NEPatriotscy]

1st of all people ridiculed the IMHE model from the get go as fear porn when it predicted 100k deaths by August. They then decreased the estimate to 60k based on the measure being taken. When those measures proved not effective enough, it has steadily risen and every time comes in way lower than reality. We are now at 125k dead already with a long time to go to August. They are now expecting 200k dead by Oct 1st and we will likely blow through that.

2nd, let’s use the EU as a comparison because there is a similar population to the US, the pandemic hit about the same time, and yet look at the below graph. And this doesn’t take into account the past few days where we’ve hit all time records.

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And to note, I am not a progressive. I am a very proud democrat but not a fan of the Bernies, AOC, etc and more of a Clinton, Biden, Obama, etc fan.

Regardless, I just wish people would take this seriously while not thinking those of us asking for social distancing and masks are somehow trying to take away freedoms. We just realize the only way to get beyond this is to treat it seriously and minimize the loss to both lives and economy.

Bingo!!!!!

 

[VeloClone]

How many pages has it been since any discussion of Cyclone football games?

 

[isufbcurt]

Are you a coroner or something? I might have missed that earlier in the thread.

He stated a couple pages back that he does something with determining cause of death

 

[Gunnerclone]

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Tell me again that we don’t have a problem of our own making.

I keep seeing this graph and it’s the most depressing thing every time. And now even when we’ve decided that we’re bored of it people won’t wear masks.

 

[cycloner29]

We got the email from Pollard yesterday. 50% capacity, all available tickets are sold, reduced tailgating hours, digital tickets, change entrance procedures, modified concessions, extra hand sanitizer stations. Relocating people to a different area if they are uncomfortable where they are at. Refunds on season tickets if you do not feel comfortable going.

 

[jsb]

We got the email from Pollard yesterday. 50% capacity, all available tickets are sold, reduced tailgating hours, digital tickets, change entrance procedures, modified concessions, extra hand sanitizer stations. Relocating people to a different area if they are uncomfortable where they are at. Refunds on season tickets if you do not feel comfortable going.

also requiring masks to get in. I believe Iowa State will send out a map of what seats are full. You can look at your seats and decide if you want to move away from them this year or not.

 

[MartyFine]

 

[diaclone]

hell myself and coworkers are pretty damn sure we had it back in February.. all the symptoms of it. negative on strep and flu... sickest I have ever been for a few weeks..... doc said probably an unknown respiratory virus at the time..

You should get tested for the antibodies.

 

[Gunnerclone]

You should get tested for the antibodies.

Ive been trying to find a viable way to get an antibody test for months.

 

[diaclone]

Ive been trying to find a viable way to get an antibody test for months.

Oh my, that's terrible. Our testing and tracing is just criminal.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Oh my, that's terrible. Our testing and tracing is just criminal.

Id have to drive to Cleveland which is like two hours away and Id have to have a recommendation from a doctor. I want to spit in vile and send it back to the lab like ancestry.com.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

The state of WV governor forced out the states highest ranking medical expert yesterday. The governor a republican, said the state was having fewer cases than what the medical expert says. He says 6 new cases, she says 100's of new cases, so she is out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/w...-outbreaks/ar-BB15TXT5?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

 

[jsb]

The state of WV governor forced out the states highest ranking medical expert yesterday. The governor a republican, said the state was having fewer cases than what the medical expert says. He says 6 new cases, she says 100's of new cases, so she is out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/w...-outbreaks/ar-BB15TXT5?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

the WV governor is a real piece of work.