I have a question for the smart people on here. How does Canada only have 187 deaths. Did they shut down the country early or what?
Extremely low population density. Big cities are very isolated from each other
I have a question for the smart people on here. How does Canada only have 187 deaths. Did they shut down the country early or what?
I have a question for the smart people on here. How does Canada only have 187 deaths. Did they shut down the country early or what?
I don’t think she actually understands what people are calling for. I think that she thinks what people are calling for is an order where you can’t actually leave your house. I’m hopeful she just does what you are calling for and leaves it at that. If she doesn’t then I think we have more serious problems. I’m introverted so I don’t leave my house that much anyway but actually restricting me to that would not be good for my mental health. I’ve already had panic attacks fearing that. Maybe it is an irrational fear but it is absolutely terrifying to me. I can probably make do with it for a week or two but past that I wouldn't make it under that type of restriction.
I’ve already discussed the possibility of moving back home but my parents are sleeping in separate rooms already to minimize their contact and they’ve taken over my old room.
Was talking about USA numbers from this site. I still don't know clearly what clarifies as 'recovered' though for tracking so it may not even matter. Like if someone actually had it, but they weren't even allowed to get tested, I doubt they would be much more than an afterthought if they didn't require medical attention.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
I thought Ohio was held up as some paragon for Iowa to emulate. Their stay at home order exempts churches. Really? It's almost as if these orders are inconsistent and ill defined.
Didn't check the source but what's being used by Wikipedia looks like lots of states don't report recovered at all. I also think there are likely lots of people that are essentially recovered but aren't counted YET. For example CA has like 12,000 confirmed cases, 230 or so deaths but only like 60 reported as recovered. So I think using a sum of states recovered data is not valid.
I forgot to reply to this earlier. I'm not in any way minimizing your concerns or fears, but I very sincerely think it's highly unlikely it will ever come to this. I haven't followed every state's restrictions but is even NYC on that level of restrictions right now?
Regardless, every expert recommendation I have read says that getting outside is necessary in these times. Particularly in a place like Iowa it's 100% possible to do that while observing a healthy distance from people. It's going to have to get bad beyond anything any of us has imagined so far for them to take that away.
Obviously I can't predict the future but I've read everything I can about all this, and I think if you're at home already your next month or two will probably look identical to your last two or three weeks...with the exception of more reliably pleasant weather outside.
Makes sense. Seems like the way this works you have to wait a long time before you can really deem someone recovered.Also have to be tested again 3X negative to be considered recovered.
The epicenter of US COVID is doing the following:
Those not on the large and vague essential business list have to close or work from home.
Events w large groups are cancelled.
School closures.
Reduced mass transit
Others are encouraged to stay home except for essential activities like work or groceries.
Workers for essential businesses are encouraged to work from home.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ny.cur...w-york-covid-19-coronavirus-cancellations-nyc
But they have an official SIP so it's totally different than what is happening in Iowa.
Is everything in Iowa pretty much shut down, and the Governor just playing a political game, or are people business as usual?
Is everything in Iowa pretty much shut down, and the Governor just playing a political game, or are people business as usual?
Is everything in Iowa pretty much shut down, and the Governor just playing a political game, or are people business as usual?
I agree. This is a reflection of the total absence of leadership at the top.So define them so they don't exempt churches. Or anything else.
There, that was easy.
In iowa all.the churches are only holding online services right now that I know of. People just need to use common sense, we don't need the government to police it if we just do the right thingsSo define them so they don't exempt churches. Or anything else.
There, that was easy.
Religious events that involve more than 10 people are currently prohibited in Iowa.In iowa all.the churches are only holding online services right now that I know of. People just need to use common sense, we don't need the government to police it if we just do the right things
I agree it is dumb to be stubborn and not just do it.Well, Cuomo hasn't had to waste precious time in his press conferences trying to discredit the nation's leading authority on the crisis, so he does have that going for him.
I like Fauci too, but he has been all over the place with his recommendations. Just last week he was saying this pandemic was a regional issue with hotspots in different parts of the nation, and it was going to have to be different response levels for different parts of the country at different times. Now he says every state should have stay at home orders, whatever that means. Meanwhile his boss won't order that. The message from federal leadership has been a muddled mess leaving states to fend for themselves.I agree it is dumb to be stubborn and not just do it.
I think Fauci is great but when he is talking about states that haven't implemented SIP his description is nothing close to Iowa, and his rationale is to make things happen that have been in place and shared in the Governors press conference every day for two weeks.