Season Ender: Five questions for the offseason
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Is it odd that our season is over and yet it is the last thing on my mind right now?
CycloneErik
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It's a good enough article, but I'm impressed that CW could turn our threads into an article written for us. Seriously, that's not bad.
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Only Jamie knows, but one would think that another year next year like this past one, and not only is he on the hot seat, he is deep fat fried.
Its all on Prohm and the kids.
If the NCAA tournament never happens this year, can you really say that we missed it?
"We know what Prohm wants it to be. Toughness. Play some defense. Space it out offensively and push tempo." If this is what Prohm wants his program to be then he is doing a terrible job of coaching and recruiting to make it happen. I keep hearing this from Prohm and sports writers; however, how many times have we seen his teams play this way? ISU might be the softest, least disciplined, and worst defensive team in the Big 12. Just saying this over and over does not make it true.
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I 100% disagree with the blurb about Prohm wanting his teams to be tough and defensive.
Defense rankings according to BartTorvik:
Prohm:
2019-2020: 148
2018-2019: 54
2017-2018: 111
2016-2017: 48
2015-2016: 77
Compare that to Hoiberg, who was not at all known for defense:
2014-2015: 61
2013-2014: 71
2012-2013: 130
2011-2012: 58
2010-2011: 86
Depending on how you look at it, Prohm’s teams were either similar, or on average, worse, on defense than Hoiberg’s teams.
In fact, it seems Prohm’s teams have trouble with the most basic of defensive concepts, boxing out and rebounding. Simply put: Prohm’s teams are NOT defensive minded. Let’s stop that narrative once and for all.
Defense rankings according to BartTorvik:
Prohm:
2019-2020: 148
2018-2019: 54
2017-2018: 111
2016-2017: 48
2015-2016: 77
Compare that to Hoiberg, who was not at all known for defense:
2014-2015: 61
2013-2014: 71
2012-2013: 130
2011-2012: 58
2010-2011: 86
Depending on how you look at it, Prohm’s teams were either similar, or on average, worse, on defense than Hoiberg’s teams.
In fact, it seems Prohm’s teams have trouble with the most basic of defensive concepts, boxing out and rebounding. Simply put: Prohm’s teams are NOT defensive minded. Let’s stop that narrative once and for all.
I think this chart of the Big 12 teams is informative --
Who is who should be easy enough based on the color of the dots. We are at the bottom-center, TTU is the brighter red, and OU is to the lower-left of Texas Tech.
KSU is on the far left -- average defense but an absolutely pitiful offense.
Our offensive efficiency was as high as #3 in the conference (after uber-teams Baylor and Kansas) before Haliburton went down with the injury.
Offense was never the problem despite most of the complaints on here this season being that we were not making threes (even if we were).
We were easily the worst defensive team in the conference.
Thoughts on Lewis and Griffin taking the next step this offseason?
By "next step" do you mean "next stop"? They're gonna transfer.
Love it, CW! One point of disagreement, I do see one or both freshman guards, Tre and Caleb, taking that proverbial next step. For Tre, that's running the offense when called upon and hitting the 3-ball at the rate (~40%) he's capable of. For Caleb that means asserting himself even more defensively and regaining confidence in his shot (~35% from three).
Technically we’re still the reigning Big 12 Tournament champs
Agree. In a tougher media market, Prohm would be getting a lot of heat.
Curious if there are any rumblings about possible de-commits from the incoming freshman class? I sure hope not but after how this season went that seems like a legit concern that 1 or more may reconsider their choice. I would not be shocked if Lewis and/or Griffin leave for more PT elsewhere. I would sure hope you could offer a starting spot and immediate playing time to a stud juco or grad transfer after the mess we just watched play out as Solo and Jackson seem to be about the only 2 hold overs that will have a starting spot and likely Foster will have to start out of necessity too.
