Are we being to harsh

CloneFan4

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Arsenal fan here too. It was never clear what Emery wanted. Arteta has made the struggleing players on the team better They Seem to know what their job is now

Sounds similar to the situation with Iowa State basketball.

Agree or disagree glad to see another gunner on here!
 

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Wouldn’t put anything past Prohm. I didn’t think losing to Florida A&M or by 30 points to unranked teams at home was possible before.


I can’t remember if it was you or not, but which one of you wrote you wished we wouldn’t have won the big 12 tournament last year.
 
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There is enough sadness and bad things in the world. Why did Steve have to steer Iowa State basketball into the side of an iceberg and let it start sinking too?
 

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I am still holding out hope for next year. Hopefully next year's freshman class is like the 91-92 freshman class that pulled Johnny's teams out of worse seasons than what Prohm has had this year.
 

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I am still holding out hope for next year. Hopefully next year's freshman class is like the 91-92 freshman class that pulled Johnny's teams out of worse seasons than what Prohm has had this year.
Guess that depends on how you define "worse". Orr never lost 20 games. The 90-91 team was 12-19, and was 6-8 in conference. So same record and we still have a game to go, only Orr had more conference wins, and didn't lose by 30 at home.
 

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Guess that depends on how you define "worse". Orr never lost 20 games. The 90-91 team was 12-19, and was 6-8 in conference. So same record and we still have a game to go, only Orr had more conference wins, and didn't lose by 30 at home.

Correct but in the 89-90 season his regular season w/l percentage was 35.7% compared to Prohm's 37.5% and that season of Orr's saw the two most lopsided losses in Cyclone history Losing by 49 points to Indiana and twice to Kansas once by 43 and once by 33.
 
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Guess that depends on how you define "worse". Orr never lost 20 games. The 90-91 team was 12-19, and was 6-8 in conference. So same record and we still have a game to go, only Orr had more conference wins, and didn't lose by 30 at home.

And this bunch had a dramatically bad bottom half of the conference. With a normal year in the Big 12, we aren't getting those 5 wins.
 

FOREVERTRUE

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Correct but in the 89-90 season his regular season w/l percentage was 35.7% compared to Prohm's 37.5% and that season of Orr's saw the two most lopsided losses in Cyclone history Losing by 49 points to Indiana and twice to Kansas once by 43 and once by 33.

So if you wanted to compare right now we are 12-19 and as you said in 90-91 season we were 12-19 same record and look at the absolute powerhouses we played those 2 seasons (89-90 and 90-91) since it was still the Big 8.
 

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I am still holding out hope for next year. Hopefully next year's freshman class is like the 91-92 freshman class that pulled Johnny's teams out of worse seasons than what Prohm has had this year.

Yeah, I remember that year. Lost a ton of talent Johnny was counting on. In different ways that this year of course. Mark Baugh flunks out of school, Sam Mack......well, and Norman Brown didn't pan out. There might have been some others but those are what I remember. Insert Lard for Baugh and THT for Mack and T. Lewis for Brown and that year does mirror this in a few ways.