It's Possible......

Jaime might have to be careful this doesn’t kill his legacy to. This is very close to spiraling out of control, if not already.
 
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When Pollard interviewed that group of finalists in Atlanta before hiring Prohm, I'm sure there were some who were more authoritaritive, demanding, and vocal than Prohm. But Pollard didn't want someone that much different than Fred, to make the transition for the players easier, so he went with Steve.
What he got was someone who is afraid to hold players accountable, almost timid in a way.

You want to go down this road, have at it. Prohm had everything we thought we were looking for at the time. Nobody considered it a bad move. And nobody can predict the future.
 
You want to go down this road, have at it. Prohm had everything we thought we were looking for at the time. Nobody considered it a bad move. And nobody can predict the future.
Whoa what's this. I, for one, would have hired someone who instills a little "fear" into their players...a little tension regarding performance in practice and games.
 
You want to go down this road, have at it. Prohm had everything we thought we were looking for at the time. Nobody considered it a bad move. And nobody can predict the future.

I thought he was a good hire, but there were people skeptical of his Murray State record for all the right reasons.
 
I don’t either honestly. His track record of hiring coaches isn’t very good. He did great with Hoiberg and Campbell, but horribly missed with McDermott, Chizik, Rhoads, and Prohm. I don’t trust him hiring our next basketball coach.

I dont see chizik as a miss. He had us set up well, rhoads had his only success on what came from Chizik. Plus Chizik helped achieve a big benefit- it sold a **** load of tickets and started the trend of people buying season tickets, which tremendously helped the program. Had he stayed a couple more years he'd be remembered better. He just got the offer of a lifetime, no one would turn that down.

McDermott sucked, but i dont know that i really fault pollard for that either. I mean, every coaching hire is a crapshoot. Its an odds game and you're trying to hire the guy with the best chance of success McDermott has done well before and after here, so clearly he's a decent coach, for whatever reason things just didnt work out here, even though the odds were high it would go better. .

And Rhoads? Everyone loved Rhoads for awhile, and wanted to make sure we kept him back in 2011. Again, hard to fault Pollard for that program taking a nosedive.
 
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I dont see chizik as a miss. He had us set up well, rhoads had his only success on what came from Chizik. Plus Chizik helped achieve a big benefit- it sold a fuckload of tickets and started the trend of people buying season tickets, which tremendously helped the program. Had he stayed a couple more years he'd be remembered better. He just got the offer of a lifetime, no one would turn that down.

McDermott sucked, but i dont know that i really fault pollard for that either. I mean, every coaching hire is a crapshoot. Its an odds game and you're trying to hire the guy with the best chance of success McDermott has done well before and after here, so clearly he's a decent coach, for whatever reason things just didnt work out here, even though the odds were high it would go better. .

And Rhoads? Everyone loved Rhoads for awhile, and wanted to make sure we kept him back in 2011. Again, hard to fault Pollard for that program taking a nosedive.

Honestly the only thing I think you can really blame Pollard for was extending McCarney in 2006 then firing him like five months later. Even that isn't that bad, because it was fresh off two straight seasons where we should have been the Big 12 North champ, so it made some sense at the time. Yet even then I think most people were realizing Mac had taken us as far as he could.
 
my point is that Fred is a user. Not sure why we’d take him back.

No. Somebody offers you a job to double your salary, you're going to take it. Don't be stupid, Fred would still be here if he didn't have such a great offer from the NBA.

If the right circumstances present themselves, I bet Fred would come back.
 
Clearly this was made in jest. But this is beginning to be a real problem.

This is realistically a 4 or 5 year rebuild. Couple for Prohm to play out his contract, couple for the new guy to rebuild. Realignment coming and we can’t have b-ball like this.

I know Pollard won’t fire him, and the big 12 is really bad at the bottom, so there are maybe a few games to steal out there. But right now, how many tickets can you sell next year?

It’s real a bad situation.

you all are delusional... not on how bad the team is but taking 4-5 years.. lmao.. in college b-ball you can go from a 10 win season to big 12 contender in Span of 1 year...

half the roster will be new next year..,half.
 
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Because he’s been, by far, a net positive for ISU athletics. Prohm was a good hire at the time.

Prohm was a hire that we could make for a million less than we were paying Fred. FIFY.
 
my point is that Fred is a user. Not sure why we’d take him back.
Anyone else think it's weird we're comparing a guy leaving a job to watching an ex **** another dude? Like.... what. Literally everyone knew he was going to the NBA eventually so IDK why we're sitting here 5 years later still utterly shocked by it.
 
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Clearly this was made in jest. But this is beginning to be a real problem.

This is realistically a 4 or 5 year rebuild. Couple for Prohm to play out his contract, couple for the new guy to rebuild. Realignment coming and we can’t have b-ball like this.

I know Pollard won’t fire him, and the big 12 is really bad at the bottom, so there are maybe a few games to steal out there. But right now, how many tickets can you sell next year?

It’s real a bad situation.

I'm guessing most the season ticket holders stick with it. Most of them have went through bad patches before. It certainly isn't any fun though. Walk up and single game tickets will be what take the hit. Not exactly the same but WBB has close to 9000 season tickets sold but attendance is no where near that. Some people look at their tickets as a donation to the athletic department. This is all only my 2 cents worth though.
 

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