This is why Prohm must go........

[stormchaser2014]

So is Prom gone?

 

[StClone]

The real March Madness is here, or is it Sadness.

 

[awd4cy]

The thing is he’s earned high seeds which means he plays low seeds. It’s not his ******* fault two years ago there was an upset.

Probably a good thing. Not confident we would have beat Purdue in 2016.

 

[jsb]

Probably a good thing. Not confident we would have beat Purdue in 2016.

You have no ******* idea.

 

[CyclonesRock]

This team is young??? Sure there are three freshmen that played (only two major minutes) and the rest of the team was two fifth year seniors (Shayok and Babb), a fourth year junior in Jacobsen, a third year sophomore in Lard, and one sophomore Wigginton.........sure there are other young players on the roster that may help in the future that are young but the line-up used by Prohm for most of the year was not extremely young. Baylor and K-State just lost in the first round also.......

Facts are that Prohm:

Took over a very strong program and has won three NCAA tournament games in four years.....NONE in the last two

Has a 35-37 record in Big 12 play in four years......13-23 the last two years with mostly his players.

Had a defensive philosophy tonight that chose not to double team Ohio State's best player and it clearly didn't work



Some people are getting angry about people "hating" on Steve Prohm and yet their defense for what he has accomplished at ISU is laughable.......he hasn't done a terrible job by any means......what he has done is mediocre.....if you are okay with mediocre then great but I'm not.......

Are you a Husker or a Hawkeye? Both neighboring programs got bored with "underachieving" coaches and are still waiting to get back to the level they were at many years later. These are young men that sometimes underperform in spite of how they are coached not because of how they are coached. A couple of momentum switching bad calls by officials were more to blame than anything CSP did or didn't do.

 

[Cyguy1984]

First of all, Prohm coached this team terribly all year long.

People got all excited because we won the Big 12 Tourney but we should have won the Big 12 Tourney. (We had the best roster in the Big 12)

Finishing 9-9 in conference play was really embarrassing as the Clones clearly should have won the league.

Elite teams play two big men....it's just the way it is.....look at KU, UK, UNC, Duke, etc.......

Why he didn't start a line-up of Wigginton, Shayok, Horton-Tucker, Lard, and Jacobsen is ridiculous.....people wondering why we kept getting out-rebounded and then you see four guards out there and it's not real tough.....rotating Weiler-Babb and Haliburton with the three other guards would have worked fine but instead he put the team in a bad situation at all times with NEVER having a second big on the floor.....that is a joke.

Sure, you can go to four guards at times but when you're in a big boys league you have to compete at a big boy level.....Prohm doesn't do that.

Then we once again we got to watch "stand and watch basketball" tonight as he allowed them to spend much of the first half (and many games during the regular season) with four guys on the perimeter just standing and then shooting a three-pointer with only ONE guy underneath to rebound.....we were extremely easy to to guard because our coaching was terrible....we have GREAT players that can drive to the basket in Shayok, Horton-Tucker, and Wigginton who could have been drawing fouls all first half, drawing defense for a miss and easy offensive rebound, or creating wide-open three's but no.....Steve allowed them to stand on the perimeter and shoot NBA three's......live by it and die by it.........

Then let's talk about our defense........Ohio State has a completely mediocre team without Wesson (they lost by 19 without him against Northwestern).....he's clearly their only big-time player......a good coach would double team him every time he touched it and would have forced the rest of the OSU team to beat us......not Steve.....that was just too logical of a thing to do......so he just let Wesson toy with our bigs for most of the game.......it's easy stuff that he just decided not to do.......

If people think this is just reactionary to a tough tourney loss, you don't understand the game......he's the head coach who allowed his team to have problems that led to a 9-9 Big 12 record which is downright embarrassing and now he just led us to a horrific loss to a terrible Ohio State team......if you think he's the guy to lead this program to big-time tourney runs you are wrong.......in fact he took over a program that was loaded with talent and he went to the Sweet 16 with Fred's team......then went to the round of 32, then no tourney, then now we are out in the round of 64.........it's been downhill and in four years he has a 35-37 record in Big 12 league play......that's brutal......ISU has been to the tourney 7 of 8 years but if they want to become an elite program which I believe they can become, they need a new leader.....it's real simple.

This is why fans like you should go
#fakefan

 

[awd4cy]

You have no ******* idea.

Did I upset you?

 

[Cat Stevens]

Did I upset you?

It actually does really go to show how unimaginative and thoughtful you truly are though.

Parroting swarthy May put you into the first social group you’ve ever been allowed in, but it’s doesnt mean you have a clue.

 

[Cat Stevens]

Probably a good thing. Not confident we would have beat Purdue in 2016.

This is as dumb as anything you have posted here, and that bar was set high.

 

[madguy30]

 

[jsb]

Did I upset you?

No. But remember who we beat. Beard who we can’t stop drooling about.

 

[BCoffClone125]

Just stop?

So I guess you are okay with a 35-37 record in Big 12 over his four years and how the team has one NCAA tournament win in three years.......I guess you are okay with 9-9 mediocre records when this team CLEARLY had the talent to go 14-4 in league.......prove my points wrong......otherwise your post means nothing.....you didn't because you can't......end of story....

Fred's first 4 years:
Big 12 record: 37-37
Big 12 tourney titles: 1
NCAA tourney appearances: 3
NCAA tourney record: 4-3
Off-season result: Contract extension and raise

Steve's first 4 years:
Big 12 record: 35-37
Big 12 tourney titles: 2
NCAA tourney appearances: 3
NCAA tourney record: 3-3
Off-season result: PROHM MUST GO!!!

Pretty darn similar, but why bring logic and numbers into this, right?

 

[Macloney]

You didn't dispute any of my points and you somehow think I would be affected by you starting to call me names......funny stuff......it's sad that Chris allows 3rd graders on cyclonefanatic......glad you to hear you are okay with one.....yes one NCAA tournament victory in the last three seasons......sorry I have bigger expectations for ISU basketball.....if you don't then that's perfectly okay......enjoy your evening my friend

You go ahead and put your expectations in one hand and a pile of **** in the other and and tell us which one fills up first, my guy.

 

[Pollard4Life]

I firmly support Steve Prohm as our coach. We are fortunate to have him. He represents the program well. With that being said, he was the beneficiary of playing in a very weak conference this past season. He needs to get a lot better at X's and O's if we are going to have success in the NCAA tournament. The Big 12 is soft and we need to become much more physical to compete for Sweet 16's, Elite 8's and Final Fours.

 

[Cycloneman24]

Not dodging anything. Would you be happier if they earned a 14 and won a game.

He’s lost to a 1 in the sweet 16 and a 4. And now an 11.

Did Fred ever beat a good seed? The answer is no. North Carolina a 6 was the best. He lost to a 7 and a 14.

He May not have beat a high seed but he beat power 5 opponents. UConn Notre Dame he beat. And was competitive in losing to KY and UConn both of which one national titles that year.

 

[Cycl1]

Fred's first 4 years:
Big 12 record: 37-37
Big 12 tourney titles: 1
NCAA tourney appearances: 3
NCAA tourney record: 4-3
Off-season result: Contract extension and raise

Steve's first 4 years:
Big 12 record: 35-37
Big 12 tourney titles: 2
NCAA tourney appearances: 3
NCAA tourney record: 3-3
Off-season result: PROHM MUST GO!!!

Pretty darn similar, but why bring logic and numbers into this, right?

I'm not calling for Prohm to be fired, but the situation each walked into was completely different. Fred walked into a dumpster fire. Prohm walked into Georges ******* niang.

 

[Cycloneman24]

Fred's first 4 years:
Big 12 record: 37-37
Big 12 tourney titles: 1
NCAA tourney appearances: 3
NCAA tourney record: 4-3
Off-season result: Contract extension and raise

Steve's first 4 years:
Big 12 record: 35-37
Big 12 tourney titles: 2
NCAA tourney appearances: 3
NCAA tourney record: 3-3
Off-season result: PROHM MUST GO!!!

Pretty darn similar, but why bring logic and numbers into this, right?

Record is similar but look at who Fred lost too. UConn, Kentucky, UAB. 2/3 teams won the championship that year. So quit trying to compare. Prohm has lost to VA, Purdue both of which who lost their next game in the tournament. We will see that trend continue with Ohio state.

 

[TacoCorp]

I firmly support Steve Prohm as our coach. We are fortunate to have him. He represents the program well. With that being said, he was the beneficiary of playing in a very weak conference this past season. He needs to get a lot better at X's and O's if we are going to have success in the NCAA tournament. The Big 12 is soft and we need to become much more physical to compete for Sweet 16's, Elite 8's and Final Fours.

Nice nuanced take. Prepare to be blasted as not a real Cyclone fan.

 

[Pollard4Life]

Nice nuanced take. Prepare to be blasted as not a real Cyclone fan.

I appreciate the heads up. I am always amazed at some poster's inability to be positive and objective at the same time.

 

[TacoCorp]

I appreciate the heads up. I am always amazed at some poster's inability to be positive and objective at the same time.

It appears to be a dying skill, unfortunately.

I thought Travis Hines wrote a nicely measured analysis of the season.

https://www.amestrib.com/sports/20190323/hines-column-how-will-strange-cyclones-season-be-remembered