I never understood why Buffalo hired Ryan right after he was fired from The Jets. It's not like he was setting the world on fire there either.
NFL: Rex Ryan fired as Bills Coach
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Maybe. He walked away when there were about a half dozen other vacancies, so he might have just had his eyes on the BBD with an ownership group he was familiar with (the Pegulas had just purchased the team) and overplayed his hand. There was also a clause in his contract with Buffalo that allowed him to collect his full 2015 salary of four million dollars that would not offset even if he landed another job. That's pretty good incentive to leave, especially if you're confident you can get another job.
Even if that's an indictment of the organization, it's a different leadership group now. Ralph Wilson got caught up with cycling through coaches because he was old and impatient. We don't know yet if the Pegulas will be more Jimmy Haslem or Shad Khan.
It is interesting to note that they've announced Doug Whaley will lead the search for the next head coach, which means either they're trying for a measure of continuity or there was a power struggle within the organization and Ryan lost.
Actually, we do know what sort of owner Pegula is; he also owns the Buffalo Sabres. Without going back, I believe he kept the Ruff and Reiger show for another year and a half or so after buying the team before firing them (they had about 12 years together when they were fired). I believe with Rex, the past few weeks convinced Terry that there would not be much improvement. And the defensive side of the ball, his speciality, speaks for itself.
Current Openings
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Curious to see how many other openings will happen
I could see McCoy in San Diego losing to Cleveland could be the final straw although Chargers were hit hard by injuries.
Hearing talk the Marvin Lewis could be gone in Cincy. 2nd longest tenured coach in the NFL and he has 0 playoff wins.
Maybe Chicago?
Rams
Jags
Bills
Curious to see how many other openings will happen
I could see McCoy in San Diego losing to Cleveland could be the final straw although Chargers were hit hard by injuries.
Hearing talk the Marvin Lewis could be gone in Cincy. 2nd longest tenured coach in the NFL and he has 0 playoff wins.
Maybe Chicago?
The other morning on ESPN they said that the Rams want Gruden and are willing to pay big bucks to get him.
They say that about a team every year. And every year he stays in broadcasting.
We'll see if this year is different.
Just thinking out loud, but maybe the Chargers are the team to make a big splash
Seemingly moving to LA with land leased close to my office. They would be, by far, the 2nd team in the market (if not 3rd or 4th). They would need a big splash.
Rebrand the team and get a high profile coach. If they don't then they'll be the White Sox of LA
It won't just be about the money. Gruden would probably want full control over the roster as well. And that's what would make me sweat about hiring Gruden or Cowher or even Harbaugh, if/when he decides to come back to the NFL - being a great head coach does not necessarily make you a great roster architect. And those guys would all probably want full control. Splashy hire for sure, but there's a lot of risk with it.
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And I don't know if you can truly call Gruden a great head coach. His track record is sort of up and down. His time in Tampa will always be marred by his inability to find a quarterback. He stocked his roster with "meh" QBs that never really did anything. Even his Super Bowl win is considered by some to be tainted, because he did it with Dungy's players.
Gruden is a splashy hire because of his exposure and name recognition, not necessarily because he's this great coach.
I think Gruden could be a really expensive mistake. He commands a high price because he doesn't NEED to be coaching, but I think his name is worth more than his coaching ability.
Who's the next great coach out there though? Some good coordinators have ended up being terrible as head coaches. Not a lot of promising prospects I can think of.
That's true, too. The Super Bowl ring gives him a lot of cachet, maybe more than he deserves. It doesn't necessarily make him a better coach than a guy like Andy Reid, who's been very successful but unable to win a Lombardi Trophy.
That raises a good question. I know there are some names floating around about what coordinators could be brought in as a HC, but I am curious as to who the next Coach out of College will be, if it will happen any time in the near future. It seems like that is rarely used any more, and other than Pete Carroll, the track record hasn't been great recently.
If you were a Rams or Jaguars fan, who would you want to be on the top of your list?
I would want Matt Patricia, although I know he most likely will never leave Belli's side. Other than that, I would say Vance Joseph or Kyle Shanahan. Maybe through Jim Bob Cooter in there because, well, ya know.
As a lifelong Bills fan, I'm glad he's gone. Hated the hire from the get-go. Our defense went from top of the league to pretty poor. The offense was quite a bit worse than the talent. I have no idea who should get the nod, but if it's a dude that just got fired again, I quit the NFL.
Gruden makes $6.5 million as a "journalist". There's zero incentive to go back to coaching.
Bellichick assistants haven't always done well without the organization of the Patriots behind them. I would worry that Patricia would have issues building up a bad team. Though he could be good with an established team who just had bad coaching.
Vance Joseph has only been a DC for one year, but if he's got that IT factor, he might be worth it.
I think Kyle Shanahan might be a lock for a HC job. He's earning a lot of money this year.
Heh, Cooter.
Oh, as for college? I think NFL front offices are scared of going after college coaches now. NFL is really a different animal.
i think it's more tainted because he was facing the team he coached the year before and knew just about everything in their playbook.
