*** COACHING SEARCH THREAD: Thursday, June 4 ***

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I deleted my earlier post because TJ had been here 3 years, versus the 2 I was thinking. So he does have better Hoiball roots than I thought. I do still think that he would be a stronger candidate if he had stayed here versus going to Washington, especially if he is to be looked at as Fred's heir.

I wonder if part of the reasons he left for a bit was to expand his network when it comes time to build a staff sometime in the future.Though his 7 years at ISU were under two different HC and staffs, moving to a different conference would definitely expand that circle of who you know.
 
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.....Regarding Weekend Interviews...

Don't assume that only those 4 will interview - it's at least those 4...

Regarding The Search & Leaks / Friction

I was just talking to some people about that. While I absolutely think it's important for Leath to push JP out of his comfort zone - because let's be honest, all of his searches have been very limited in scope/breadth - there is a line that he can't cross of being too integrated into the actual process.

I will add that while people love what JP has done, there are a lot [redacted] that feel he's great at working the donors, building excitement, etc but can't be fully trusted to make the call on coaches. He has a narrow focus on those that he feels he has considered to lead the various programs and his mind is set from there on. Donors don't like that because they are fanatics just like everybody else and want to be excited. Leath doesn't like it because he wants to constantly push the bar higher (rightfully so).

If Leath wasn't here, we would have had TJ announced by EOD tomorrow. With Leath involved, a proper search is being conducted with input from a lot of people. As much as I think the current friction is being aired too much and hurting us, it is long overdue to be quite frank - and many people share that opinion.

I will pass along something I've heard from several key members in all of this - "JP has done more for ISU Athletics than any single individual before him, but he continues to operate like Iowa State is the little school on the prairie like when he arrived."

That sentiment speaks to the level of candidates and the money that JP has been working with, right or wrong. People don't have to like his process, but people need to love where Leath wants to take our athletic programs - much higher than even JP has envisioned.....
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This is the most informative post I have read since the debacle started two months ago (or earlier). It speaks to a lot of the feelings the uninformed (me included) have about what may be going on in Ames. I truely appreciate the candid remarks, as it is tough even being remotely critical of Jamie considering CF's working relationship with him. But journalists know the territory.
Thank you for sharing. Reading background stuff like this is why I go to CycloneFanatic. Keep up the great work.
 
I just find it amazing that after all the success this program has had lately how some here are so quick to just go ahead and hand it over to TJ without giving serious considerations to other candidates outside of the program. I'm not against hiring TJ if he turns out to be the best man for the job but to hire him without interviewing and taking into consideration several other qualified outside candidates would be very narrow minded as Jeremy alluded to. If we named TJ the head coach by end of this week I would be disappointed because that means we didn't do a very thorough search and consider all options. This program should not have to settle for an easy hire, we have the roster to have success this coming season and the program is at a level that if the right guys steps into this job there should be a lot of interest in this job where only considering someone with previous ISU ties or someone on staff would be short changing everyone. We never can replace what Fred meant to this program nor can we just think anyone that worked with him or anyone that has former ISU ties is going to be able to replicate some of the things he did. I want to see the up-tempo offense continue but bringing someone in that will put some more emphasis on the defensive side to go with it would really help too.
 
He's also following several SI swimsuit models. I feel dirty for looking up who he follows, but it makes me wonder what LE's follow-list would have been like back in the day, and if that would have tipped us off to any clues on the help he needed.
 
I just find it amazing that after all the success this program has had lately how some here are so quick to just go ahead and hand it over to TJ without giving serious considerations to other candidates outside of the program. I'm not against hiring TJ if he turns out to be the best man for the job but to hire him without interviewing and taking into consideration several other qualified outside candidates would be very narrow minded as Jeremy alluded to. If we named TJ the head coach by end of this week I would be disappointed because that means we didn't do a very thorough search and consider all options. This program should not have to settle for an easy hire, we have the roster to have success this coming season and the program is at a level that if the right guys steps into this job there should be a lot of interest in this job where only considering someone with previous ISU ties or someone on staff would be short changing everyone. We never can replace what Fred meant to this program nor can we just think anyone that worked with him or anyone that has former ISU ties is going to be able to replicate some of the things he did. I want to see the up-tempo offense continue but bringing someone in that will put some more emphasis on the defensive side to go with it would really help too.

Who has the power to do that here?

Gonna have to get off the "not conducting a search" thing. The candidates have been announced, they are all interviewing.
 
I just find it amazing that after all the success this program has had lately how some here are so quick to just go ahead and hand it over to TJ without giving serious considerations to other candidates outside of the program.

I've read literally every post in the coaching search threads and I don't recall anyone saying we should hire TJ without conducting a serious search.
 
I've read literally every post in the coaching search threads and I don't recall anyone saying we should hire TJ without conducting a serious search.

Why put yourself through that punishment?
 
I wonder if part of the reasons he left for a bit was to expand his network when it comes time to build a staff sometime in the future.Though his 7 years at ISU were under two different HC and staffs, moving to a different conference would definitely expand that circle of who you know.

I'm not saying it was necessarily a bad move on his part, but he isn't a full-on Hoiberg disciple by any means.
 
I just find it amazing that after all the success this program has had lately how some here are so quick to just go ahead and hand it over to TJ without giving serious considerations to other candidates outside of the program. I'm not against hiring TJ if he turns out to be the best man for the job but to hire him without interviewing and taking into consideration several other qualified outside candidates would be very narrow minded as Jeremy alluded to. If we named TJ the head coach by end of this week I would be disappointed because that means we didn't do a very thorough search and consider all options. This program should not have to settle for an easy hire, we have the roster to have success this coming season and the program is at a level that if the right guys steps into this job there should be a lot of interest in this job where only considering someone with previous ISU ties or someone on staff would be short changing everyone. We never can replace what Fred meant to this program nor can we just think anyone that worked with him or anyone that has former ISU ties is going to be able to replicate some of the things he did. I want to see the up-tempo offense continue but bringing someone in that will put some more emphasis on the defensive side to go with it would really help too.


Fortunately we we have a President and Big Donors who are not good with handling what has been built to an unproven AC with a weak resume.
 
The simple fact that ISU is a p5 school makes it a somewhat attractive destination for mid major coaches (at any time)... So I don't see why everyone thinks we need to take advantage of the situation now to attract a mid major coach.

Hire who makes the most sense.
 
Fortunately we we have a President and Big Donors who are not good with handling what has been built to an unproven AC with a weak resume.

What is unfortunate is how the AD handled this situation- that it took donors and Leath to step in.

I disagree with TJ having a weak resume, but it certainly has gotten stronger this late in the off season. Hopefully Leath and major donors are not just now getting involved in the process of replacing Fred. Otz is a hell of a Plan C guy if we threw everything we had and gave ourselves a chance at Plan A and B, rather than JP acting solo in bringing him as the contingency for Fred's gentleman's agreement.
 
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I think it's weird that not one Big name wants to interview for the job. I know it's Iowa state. But no big name coaches want to interview? or are the candidates intentionally this bad to push us twards TJ. Cause I'd take him over the names that have been mentioned.
 
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