I'm a big Royce fan, but you can't go any higher than #1 where HB is likely going.
Higher NBA Draft Pick Royce or HB?
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I'm a big Royce fan, but you can't go any higher than #1 where HB is likely going.
Shawn Marion is not a PF. While he did a nice job playing D on Lebron James, a SF, he has played lots of 2 - guard and 3 if you go back to his Phoenix days.
Rodman was a bit of a freak. Early in his career, he got by on quicks - one of the few guys that could go step for step with James Worthy's spin move. His quick bounce allowed him to rebound with bigger guys. His job became to defend and rebound, but you are right that his height didn't stop him from playing bigger guys.
Most of the altitude-challenged folks on your list were one of a couple of things - either really thick or great offensive players. Barkley could score and rebound, but he wasn't confused often as a good onside defender. There was a great piece on ESPN one night when Charles said he scared Michael Jordan once. Jordan's version was he took one look at Barkley trying to get ready to play on the perimeter, started laughing, and had to pass the ball until he could get his composure back. Barkley could certainly rebound. Unseld played in a different era, but like Wallace, used his hair to look bigger than he was. Those guys were not just thick and strong, they had a bit of nasty too.
Not saying White can't have a shot, but Fizer couldn't stick, and he was thick, strong, a bit nasty and a scorer.
Marion started playing the 4 when he was with Miami and has been getting a lot of time there ever since, thats why I included him.
I think we can all agree that White lands in the thick category (muscle wise, not Oliver Miller wise).
To have a lasting career in the NBA a player has to have one aspect of the game they do really, really well. Be it a banger inside, a facilitator, a scorer, etc. If White can elevate his game to a serviceable level at any one of those aspects, he could very well have a long career in the NBA.
Actually it's an opinion, not a reality. Opinions don't hold much weight. Like I might give my opinion that the use of emoticons or "smilies" when typing is strictly for teenaged girls. Now that opinion seems like a reality to me, but I doubt you would agree.
CycloneErik
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100% agree. The true greats are more well rounded by being excellent in several areas, but the way to stick in the league is to do something really well - you will stick longer than someone who is rounded, but not spectacular anywhere.
HB played in the CCL as a high school kid. Royce is 2 years past high school and is bigger than everybody else. HB has scored 40 points in a college game. Royce has never scored in a college game. I think Royce will be a great college player who doesn't project super high on draft boards.
I realize I'm helping you make your point, but I want you to make a factually correct point.
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You had me up until the part where we have to ignore HB dominating AAU - I'll add the McD's All-American Game and getting his team a 2 seed in the NCAA tournament this year. He's a top 3 pick and the original question was obviously the result of alot of drugs and heavy drinking on the OP's part.
With that said, I really think Royce is going to be great for us.
For the people using Fizer as a comparison, I agree that he had lots of holes in his game.
But the biggest problem he had was that he was drafted by the Bulls right after they had the rookie of the year in Brand at the same position.
They absolutely choked on that pick. Had another team, that didn't have their franchise player at the same damn position, would have picked Fizer, he would have had many more opportunities to play.
Now he still couldn't guard anybody, and he had a lot of attitude problems, but he was playing well at the time that he hurt his knee. But he was severely handicapped by the fact that the Bulls were the most dysfunctional franchise
But the biggest problem he had was that he was drafted by the Bulls right after they had the rookie of the year in Brand at the same position.
They absolutely choked on that pick. Had another team, that didn't have their franchise player at the same damn position, would have picked Fizer, he would have had many more opportunities to play.
Now he still couldn't guard anybody, and he had a lot of attitude problems, but he was playing well at the time that he hurt his knee. But he was severely handicapped by the fact that the Bulls were the most dysfunctional franchise
Well done sir. The whole premise of my post is that many fellow CF'ers have knowledge of Royce's skills and I was asking them to make their judgement on what they have seen with their own eyes. The same question could have been posed on an AZ Wildcat message board last year.
I'll add to it that many posters have stated where HB would have gone in this summer's draft. Keep in mind that this was one of the worst draft classess in a long time.
its obviously Royce he's easily going top 3 next year. I mean he's proven himself in the gauntlet that is the CCL. I mean come on going against some HS players as well as a few d3 players obviuosly White has proven himself to NBA GMs everywhere. What is the ACC is that some sort of mid-major joke!
I think it is officially time for a big fat BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you guys ready to have this conversation yet?
Are you guys ready to have this conversation yet?
No. Doug Gottlieb was just on the radio today saying NBA scouts aren't high on Royce.
