Fixed. You should never feel good after a loss, that's when complacency and apathy set in.
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Fixed. You should never feel good after a loss, that's when complacency and apathy set in.
Re: How Many Times Does UNI Beat KU?
What a preposterous cheap shot. At least Craig showed respect for his HC. Colvin stomps out of a meeting while his coach is speaking, Dendy goes AWOL for a week, and Gilstrap shows constant disdain for Gmac even during games (like at the timeout in the OSU game at KC, when Gmac is trying to talk to Gilstrap, even holding his arms out to stop him, and MG walks right through him and past him, as in "I don't want to hear it, coach.").
What a preposterous cheap shot. At least Craig showed respect for his HC. Colvin stomps out of a meeting while his coach is speaking, Dendy goes AWOL for a week, and Gilstrap shows constant disdain for Gmac even during games (like at the timeout in the OSU game at KC, when Gmac is trying to talk to Gilstrap, even holding his arms out to stop him, and MG walks right through him and past him, as in "I don't want to hear it, coach.").
I said nearly the last 10 years. And the last 10 years does not include 2000, when ISU had its great team. If we are talking 10 years it would be 2001-2010.
In those years UNI has;
-3 MVC tournament titles
-2 MVC regular season titles
-5 NCAA tournament appearances, in which 2 were at-large selections, and this year would have been another at-large season if not for the tournament title.
-2 wins (so far), and S16
-Win over #1 team
In those years UNI has;
-3 MVC tournament titles
-2 MVC regular season titles
-5 NCAA tournament appearances, in which 2 were at-large selections, and this year would have been another at-large season if not for the tournament title.
-2 wins (so far), and S16
-Win over #1 team
CycloneErik
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I like to think you're being sarcastic about the announcer's ignorance. Mid-majors, and the MVC in particular, have placed a ton of teams in the Sweet 16. Each year has at least one mid-major. The MVC has had several even just this decade.
You know, this is always said by people like you, but how do you know? You probably picked KU to win by 30 last night too.
Buddy, you should enjoy the big win.
Quit trying to extrapolate the occasional mid major upset in the NCAA tourney into something more than it is. If the quality of play at the mid major level was so damned good you would have more MVC appearances in the Sweet 16 than 8 in the last two decades.
if uni played the stretch of isu's schedule that consisted of KSU @ home, followed by mizzou and kansas on the road, then home games with okie state and Texas A&M, i highly doubt uni could shoot it as well as they did yesterday for that long of a period of time. And it took Eagleseder (sp?) making threes to beat kansas.
We did not shoot that well yesterday. We shot yesterday, like we have pretty much all season, and we controlled the game from start to finish.
If we had 6-7 teams in the tournament every year like the BCS conferences, we'd have a lot more S16's too.
MVC teams are more likely to run some type of set play offense versus a motion or early offense.
Man-to-man defense is very prevalent in the conference.
And you'd get more teams in the tournament if they were deserving to be there. The reality is that the MVC is a 1-2 bid league at best in most years.
All it refers to is the fact that the majority of teams run a set play offense (like UNI) or a high post offense (like Creighton) or some other variation that utilizes a lot of clock, does not try to create early offense or fast break and relies on the half court to create scoring.
Teams in other conferences are more like to run a motion offense (Memphis, Kansas, Gonzaga) a dribble drive offense (Providence, Kentucky) a swing (Maryland, Wisconsin) or one of a hundred different systems. There are teams that run set play offenses like UNI - Michigan State being the prime example.
That is how I would consider the MVC different. However, I don't know how you can say the MVC style of play will work in any conference if you personally can't define it.
Didn't read the whole thread but I will just say this. You can play any style of basketball in the world and compete with any other style if you can force them into your game and execute better than they can. That is a very simple statement and one you cannot argue. They key is doing those things. It is also hard to force teams out of their style of play. A team will not do that every game and they must be able to execute in other styles. When you play like UNI did yesterday and make very few mistakes and take advantage of some things, you will have a chance. Their style oculd work in the Big 12. With those players? Probably not for a whole season, but I find it very hard that this particular team could not compete. What was their record against the Big 12? I just cannot say this team would not be successful here. WOuld they have won the conference? No, very likely they wouldn't have but I cannot say they would have missed the tournament. There simply isn't any information to say that. Once again, I am just saying if you do what you do well and you make the game your type of game, it doe not matter what style you play.
The reason ISU can't win with McD is because UNI has players that are glad to be DI athletes. They understand that it is a privilege to be a DI athlete.
ISU basketball players think that ISU should be honored by their presence instead of the being honored to be an ISU player. They have it backwards. They feel like if things aren't going their way, then it is ISU's problem, not theirs.
McDermott, Jacobsen, Licklitter, and co had success at the smaller schools because those players came to school to work hard in the classroom and on the court. They were there to do what the coach asked.
ISU basketball players think that ISU should be honored by their presence instead of the being honored to be an ISU player. They have it backwards. They feel like if things aren't going their way, then it is ISU's problem, not theirs.
McDermott, Jacobsen, Licklitter, and co had success at the smaller schools because those players came to school to work hard in the classroom and on the court. They were there to do what the coach asked.
MVC style works best if you get ahead in the games which we never did due to bad shots and bad passing at the start.
