Not quite correct either. He is their new OC, but he has been on staff for 12 years.
North Dakota St. Game?
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IMO, run it up without being a jerk.
First half: 35-3
Second half with 2nd and 3rd teamers: 27-13.
I wouldn't mind seeing the 1st teamers play through the third either... to get some game conditioning him them .... 60 something to 10 ish.
First half: 35-3
Second half with 2nd and 3rd teamers: 27-13.
I wouldn't mind seeing the 1st teamers play through the third either... to get some game conditioning him them .... 60 something to 10 ish.
im confident in our offense, but you expect us to score 60+ in our first game under a new system? i think we'll be in the 40's... 60's is just a little too high lol
thats cuz we stink
we give up a cheap TD or two, then let our backups in for the 4th quarter when they clearly arent ready to stop even a NDSU team
CycloneErik
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Any ISU win over NDSU that is less than 21 pts will spell disaster for our season IMO.
Nearly every single year that we come out and struggle against the Kent St's, the UNI's, the Toledo's, etc.... we have a bad year.... period.
If our first teamers cannot get a 21+ pt lead on NDSU, what does anyone think we'll do against the conference opponents?
Now if our first teamers run up a 42-10 lead in 3 qtrs.... and our 2nd and 3rd teamers come in and NDSU cuts it to a 42-24 final... then that's fine with me.
But I will have none of this.... "a win is a win" bull crap. If we win by 10 pts... we won't win another game this year... mark it down.
In Chizik's first year, there was no excuse whatsoever for losing our first two games.... period! We are supposed to be a Big 12 football team. Many people on message boards used the excuse that it was Chizik's first year. That is total BS IMO. We should beat these teams on talent alone... I don't care if we are learning a new system.
Go out there and take care of business and put NDSU away... and early. No more lame excuses!!!!
Nearly every single year that we come out and struggle against the Kent St's, the UNI's, the Toledo's, etc.... we have a bad year.... period.
If our first teamers cannot get a 21+ pt lead on NDSU, what does anyone think we'll do against the conference opponents?
Now if our first teamers run up a 42-10 lead in 3 qtrs.... and our 2nd and 3rd teamers come in and NDSU cuts it to a 42-24 final... then that's fine with me.
But I will have none of this.... "a win is a win" bull crap. If we win by 10 pts... we won't win another game this year... mark it down.
In Chizik's first year, there was no excuse whatsoever for losing our first two games.... period! We are supposed to be a Big 12 football team. Many people on message boards used the excuse that it was Chizik's first year. That is total BS IMO. We should beat these teams on talent alone... I don't care if we are learning a new system.
Go out there and take care of business and put NDSU away... and early. No more lame excuses!!!!
Ed Thomas coached at AP for 30+ years and he was one hell of a coach. Where you have coached doesn't make you a good or bad coach. With that logic Gene Chizik was going to have ISU winning National Championships. I have visited the staff up their and they have a very staff. Coach Bohl is a good coach who has only won since he got there. I think he would have been an excellent hire for the ISU job the last 2 times the job was open.
Originally Posted by d4nim4l
I will say this. If we struggle to run the ball and get pressure on the QB like we did last year vs SDSU then we will again be in for a long season.
You must be a HawkFan!!!
Ummm no. D4 is dead on there spanky.
With your Chizik example, aren't you saying it DOES matter where you coach? He was good at UT and Auburn, and not so good at ISU. If where you coached didn't matter, he would have had equal success at ISU.
If you are trying to say there can be good coaches at places other than top college programs, then yes, but they usually do not stay at those places 12 years.
Thomas was a good high school coach, but I do not see how that relates to college coaching. Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier were great college coaches, but had trouble in the NFL.
Not sure what you mean. I was talking about players that transfer from D1 programs that either want to play right away or only have 1 or 2 years of eligibility left.
No game is a gimme, but I think we should handle them just fine. When it comes to preseason poles and predictions Iowa State never gets any respect, but when you are 2-10 last season I see their point; but still come on.
Iowa State needs to just blow them out big time and show that we are a big twelve school. I agree with clonedude win by ten trouble again, just kick their *** guys!!!
Clearly I did not understand your post. I thought you meant (get=beat) a few (BCS rejects = 2-10) teams a year. My bad.
So are you saying that Saben and Spurrier are not above average coaches? Or are you saying that they left their comfort zone, or maybe just had huge ego's and didn't realize that they should have stayed put. Besides failures in the NFL usually have more to do with owners and GM's than coaches in my opinion. With my Chizik example I am saying that where you coach doesn't make you a good coach. I think Walden and McCarney were good coaches in a very bad situation in Walden's case and just a bad situation in McCarney's case. I don't know if Chizik is a good Head Coach or not but he didn't have what it takes to win at ISU.
I am saying that because a coach is successful at one level or location, it does not mean they would be successful elsewhere. Hence, it does matter where you coach, but yes where you coach does not necessarily make you a good coach. However there is some correlation, and if you are a good coach, it is likely you will not be in a bad situation long.
I'm going to have plenty of Bison IN me. I'm making Buffalo Burgers for the tailgate.
It is yet to be determined how Chiz will do. In general, I believe the cream rises to the top in college football- if you are a head coach/assistant at many top programs for years, it is likely you are a good coach.
I see they lost 5 of the top 6 leading tacklers to graduation this year. Their linebackers have to be hurting, but it looks like most of the D-line comes back. Basically it looks like their defense will rely on the returning D-line and SS Lemon.
The 2nd string RB that is returning (Pat Paschell) looks more athletic than their starter last year (Roehl) did on tape. Here are some highlights, you will notice most of the guys making plays will be gone next year:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGxhJuwaStk"]YouTube - 2008 NDSU Football Highlight Video-Pt 1[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1iC4G2uj74"]YouTube - NDSU 2008 Highlight Video-Part 2[/ame]
EDIT: 44, 17, 9, 40, 80, 29, 54, and 25 were some of the seniors and are no longer on the team.
#2 is the returning running back
The 2nd string RB that is returning (Pat Paschell) looks more athletic than their starter last year (Roehl) did on tape. Here are some highlights, you will notice most of the guys making plays will be gone next year:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGxhJuwaStk"]YouTube - 2008 NDSU Football Highlight Video-Pt 1[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1iC4G2uj74"]YouTube - NDSU 2008 Highlight Video-Part 2[/ame]
EDIT: 44, 17, 9, 40, 80, 29, 54, and 25 were some of the seniors and are no longer on the team.
#2 is the returning running back
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