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Grade school "whippins"

I also remember when I got in trouble in school, I was scared to death to go home and tell mom and dad. Because I was going to get in more trouble at home.

Now when teachers disicpline kids, they better be the scared ones, because the parents are not coming to school and wanting the teacher in trouble or fired for diciplining thier precious child.
 
We had male teacher that would grab kids and slam them against a wall and it got their attention. But you know what, I ALWAYS payed attention in their classes, and never thought of screwing around. And I always learned more in their classes than the teacher that were push overs.
 
isucyfan said:
I am a BIG advocate of Dr. William Sears, who has written more than 30 parenting books. We've used many of his principles in raising our kids. Here's his take on spanking:

SPANKING
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While I agree in principle with you, I despise parents who don't have any control over their children.

I was at an Iowa Cubs game and this kid kept kicking the back of my chair and hitting me in the back of the head with one of those blow up bats. I turned around twice and asked the parents to do something. The mother simply said to the kid, "Now Johnny. You have to stop it. This man does not want to play."
 
As long as its not in anger and its a calm environment, nothing wrong with spanking your child.
 
I don't have a problem with spanking, I've had to spank my son maybe once. But a parent or teacher that has to rely on hitting to keep control of their child or student is a worthless parent/teacher.

Teachers should never get to hit students, that is so far out of their rights it's not even funny. But if a parent decides to spank I have no problem with it, but I think it should be used very sparingly.
 
mjones34 said:
As long as its not in anger and its a calm environment, nothing wrong with spanking your child.
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As long as you don't believe the studies, anyway.

My assertion is maybe it does harm them long-term, maybe it doesn't, but since there are other ways that are proven to work, why risk it?

To spanking advocates, I ask...

Why is spanking your method of choice? Does it work? Does it work better than nonviolent methods? Why do some kids whose parents don't spank at all turn out just fine?
 
isucyfan said:
As long as you don't believe the studies, anyway.

My assertion is maybe it does harm them long-term, maybe it doesn't, but since there are other ways that are proven to work, why risk it?

To spanking advocates, I ask...

Why is spanking your method of choice? It is not my method of choice, only did it once and I would call it a firm pat versus a spank (isn't there a better PC word/phrase than spank).Does it work? It did.Does it work better than nonviolent methods? It did that one time. Why do some kids whose parents don't spank at all turn out just fine?why do some kids whose parents have spanked turned out okay?
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I could choose to eat 3 lbs of red meat each day and nothing else .... But in moderation, I am healthier. Everything in moderation at the CORRECT time is the difference.

-keep.
 
This thread is ridiculous. Every person/child is different. The same corrective action isn't always going to work for everyone. It's up to the parent/teacher/guardian/caretaker to determine what works best. No one method is the answer.
 
Even Dr. Sears admits it does work for some:

An occasional swat on the bottom won't bother him." This rationalization holds true for some children,
 
Many a person has tasted the back of my hand; men, women, and children alike. I do not suffer fools. Just ask Mrs. Lono. But I never struck someone that I didn't think deserved it. And I don't mind if they hit me back if they can prove that I was wrong. Again, ask Mrs. Lono.
 
cycloneG said:
This thread is ridiculous. Every person/child is different. The same corrective action isn't always going to work for everyone. It's up to the parent/teacher/guardian/caretaker to determine what works best. No one method is the answer.
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Exactly...there are thousands of methods. Many, many of them are nonviolent ones. Choose those. Why wouldn't you?
 
isucyfan said:
Exactly my point...if either way works, why choose the violent one?
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violent? we may have two different views on what a spank is ..... if it leaves a mark.. it is violent and I consider that Hitting.

if it doesn't leave a mark, it probably wasn't violent, and therefore spanking.

-keep.
 
keepngoal said:
Even Dr. Sears admits it does work for some:

An occasional swat on the bottom won't bother him." This rationalization holds true for some children,
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Nice job taking it out of context!

Here's the whole quote:

But, you say, "I don't spank my child that often or that hard. Most of the time I show him lots of love and gentleness. An occasional swat on the bottom won't bother him." This rationalization holds true for some children, but other children remember spanking messages more than nurturing ones.
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LonoClone said:
Many a person has tasted the back of my hand; men, women, and children alike. I do not suffer fools. Just ask Mrs. Lono. But I never struck someone that I didn't think deserved it. And I don't mind if they hit me back if they can prove that I was wrong. Again, ask Mrs. Lono.
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our rule is Ask and you will receive.

That is what draws me to his manhood ... his manliness. His ability to be my hero... when I need one.
 
an occasional swat is okay for some children ... how is that out of context?

-keep
 
keepngoal said:
violent? we may have two different views on what a spank is ..... if it leaves a mark.. it is violent and I consider that Hitting.

if it doesn't leave a mark, it probably wasn't violent, and therefore spanking.

-keep.
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There are many different definitions of it. Here's one:

an act of aggression (as one against a person who resists)
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But my question is, if you can get something to work other than a spanking, why not do that?
 
isucyfan said:
There are many different definitions of it. Here's one:



But my question is, if you can get something to work other than a spanking, why not do that?
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i do ... re-read my responses to your questions. that is and has been the first and mostly used option.

-keep
 
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