Campbell help Rogers with roster

This is a little deeper than "Campbell helped with the roster." A few things happened and I'm not perfectly sure in which order but I don't think it went as planned

-Initially there was cooperation, everyone understood Campbell was taking some guys
-Campbell took more guys than initially intimated
-Rogers didn't want A LOT more guys than the old staff thought he should have
-Some old staff guys were very mad JR wasn't just trying to keep everyone
-Essentially Campbell thought he could still control the roster and JR wasn't up for that
-I believe Campbell gave some guys spots at PSU that he didn't intend because JR didn't want to keep them
-It was made very clear this is not MCU and right or wrong, that was a reality I don't think MC had foreseen

None of this, IMO, is egregious on anyone's part. It is just how all of this goes in the game right now. I think the rub was when Matt Campbell came to the realization that the next guy was coming in with a fresh perspective and it was his program now. Both positions are completely defensible, I had some questions about Rogers cutting guys loose but with the destinations of a lot of them, it's also hard to disagree with that at this point.
If the bolded is true, then CMC is far more of an egotistical lunatic than I ever imagined.
 
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I’m under the impression CMC offered to help and CJR was into it. Then CJR encouraged the CMC guys that would struggle to see the field at Drake to leave and CMC was angry CJR didn’t buy into what CMC was selling and it fell apart rather quickly
 
If the bolded is true, then CMC is far more of an egotistical lunatic than I ever imagined.
I think some of it was ego and borderline offense taking that JR didn't blindly do everything to keep everyone he could. I think a much bigger part is MC being incredibly loyal and feeling as though he brought those guys in here and now they were going to be pushed out. My opinion is that JR would have happily overpaid a few backups had it gone the way he thought where he returned about half the starters. Once all the starters were taken, I think JR calculated that with having to rebuild the whole starting lineup, he could not overpay a cent for a lot of the guys who he didn't deem at least a threat to start or surely be in the two deep. That's my guess. As I said initially, I don't know if Campbell took more people first or if JR started cutting guys loose first. I suspect it was the former.
 
CMC played the ones he left behind. He didn’t want them but then tried to make it look like Roger’s pushed them out instead of Campbell saying he didn’t want them. Campbell was trying to CYA while at the same time getting to personally talk to the ones he wanted when the PSU players started leaving.
 
I think some of it was ego and borderline offense taking that JR didn't blindly do everything to keep everyone he could. I think a much bigger part is MC being incredibly loyal and feeling as though he brought those guys in here and now they were going to be pushed out. My opinion is that JR would have happily overpaid aCa few backups had it gone the way he thought where he returned about half the starters. Once all the starters were taken, I think JR calculated that with having to rebuild the whole starting lineup, he could not overpay a cent for a lot of the guys who he didn't deem at least a threat to start or surely be in the two deep. That's my guess. As I said initially, I don't know if Campbell took more people first or if JR started cutting guys loose first. I suspect it was the former.
Can't blame CJR. After Campbell took the ones he wanted. CJR had to look at the roster and decide who would contribute this year and after. Many that left probably would not have been big contributers even if CMC stayed. There were probably a few that CJR would've kept but if they didn’t want to stay or weren't going to buy in there was no reason to keep them. Better off to bring in about 55 that wanted to be here.
 
I think some of it was ego and borderline offense taking that JR didn't blindly do everything to keep everyone he could. I think a much bigger part is MC being incredibly loyal and feeling as though he brought those guys in here and now they were going to be pushed out. My opinion is that JR would have happily overpaid a few backups had it gone the way he thought where he returned about half the starters. Once all the starters were taken, I think JR calculated that with having to rebuild the whole starting lineup, he could not overpay a cent for a lot of the guys who he didn't deem at least a threat to start or surely be in the two deep. That's my guess. As I said initially, I don't know if Campbell took more people first or if JR started cutting guys loose first. I suspect it was the former.
He’s incredibly loyal to himself and his own future. Nothing wrong with that, but for years we’ve been told how loyal he is, blah blah blah. If that were true even in the slightest, if he truly held ISU in such high esteem he wouldn’t have done what he did to the roster on his way out. His prerogative to do what he did…but it ***** all over his legacy here. He’s not a bad guy. He’s just another coach. Hopefully people learn that lesson and don’t automatically place CJR on some pedestal like he’s a god who can do no wrong.
 
He’s incredibly loyal to himself and his own future. Nothing wrong with that, but for years we’ve been told how loyal he is, blah blah blah. If that were true even in the slightest, if he truly held ISU in such high esteem he wouldn’t have done what he did to the roster on his way out. His prerogative to do what he did…but it ***** all over his legacy here. He’s not a bad guy. He’s just another coach. Hopefully people learn that lesson and don’t automatically place CJR on some pedestal like he’s a god who can do no wrong.

Is Campbell a good guy? Sure. But, he also has his new job to worry about and his assistants to worry about. Unfortunately, starting his first year 6-6 with an easy schedule would put him behind the 8 ball in recruiting. It's not like he can tell Becht or Hansen or Neal to stay loyal to ISU if he didn't. It kind of kills his legacy, but I guess he won't lose a ton of sleep over that.

In reality, Rogers did the same thing to SDSU and then the same thing to WSU in consecutive years. That's the way of the world now I guess.
 
CMC played the ones he left behind. He didn’t want them but then tried to make it look like Roger’s pushed them out instead of Campbell saying he didn’t want them. Campbell was trying to CYA while at the same time getting to personally talk to the ones he wanted when the PSU players started leaving.
And let’s stop the CMC. He’s not ours anymore so in my book he’s PSCC
 
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Depends on if you believe unsourced rumors from random internet strangers or not.
If we can’t believe unsourced internet rumors, what can we believe in?

Reminds me of a great quote some Cincy guy said back in the realignment days:

“I ain’t gotta source it and you ain’t gotta believe me.”
 
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