When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 72 8.1%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 0.8%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 163 18.4%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 189 21.3%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 455 51.4%

  • Total voters
    886
If you believed everything you hear online, this would seem impossible

Tesla remains best-selling car model in CA by a wide margin for 2025

Top Selling New Vehicle Models in CA (2025)​

  1. Tesla Model Y: 110,120
  2. Toyota RAV4: 65,604
  3. Toyota Camry: 62,324
  4. Tesla Model 3: 53,989
  5. Honda Civic: 53,085
I don't think that seems impossible, Tesla's US sales were down like 10% and their market share in California was down just a little more than that I think, so that tracks pretty closely.
 
Once a new technology reaches 5% adoption rate, it becomes inevitable. Unfortunately the US is fighting it the last couple years. We're behind in infrastructure, development and technology regarding EVs and battery tech. This puts the US behind with everything else as far as technology, including warfare. US needs to change course quickly.

 
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This came up on my feed and I quite frankly LOVE the idea.



I also think EV adoption goes way up if you incentive home solar and batteries to insulate the cost of energy to households.

The batteries is the big problem. Ain't possible to make that many batteries. Without them, solar is just a nuisance source destabilizing the grid if used in mass. Idea is full of holes.
 
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The batteries is the big problem. Ain't possible to make that many batteries. Without them, solar is just a nuisance source destabilizing the grid if used in mass. Idea is full of holes.
Yeah, when I put up my solar grid at my business, the batteries to cover even nights during the summer were going to be 2x the price of the array. That doesn’t even touch winter.

Now throw in that they aren’t coming close to producing what they claimed and it’s not a very realistic thing. May work for houses, but one business can consume more than even a small Iowa town does.
 
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Yeah, when I put up my solar grid at my business, the batteries to cover even nights during the summer were going to be 2x the price of the array. That doesn’t even touch winter.

Now throw in that they aren’t coming close to producing what they claimed and it’s not a very realistic thing. May work for houses, but one business can consume more than even a small Iowa town does.
Was going to look into solar heavily on our next house potentially. Interested in what your set up is and what company installed it then.
 
The batteries is the big problem. Ain't possible to make that many batteries. Without them, solar is just a nuisance source destabilizing the grid if used in mass. Idea is full of holes.
I don't think the battery idea wholesale is the answer but I don't see how solar is destabilizing the grid. Energy sources in aggregate have to be scaled for the peak usage moments - often on just a few days out of the year. What are those peak usage moments? They are almost exclusively very hot summer days when home and business cooling demands peak. Daytime hours in the summer is peak solar production. So you are shaving off the peak demand so you don't have to build a whole bunch more production. Sounds more stabilizing than destabilizing to me.

Energy companies have for decades tried other methods to avoid those peaks. My workplace is on a plan where they get a lower base energy rate because when peak days are approaching they are notified by the energy supplier and the business fires up their emergency generators to take load off of the grid. Solar can do a lot of the same thing for the energy supplier.
 
It's hilarious where your mind goes.
I mean thats a far drasitc reduction in range for less then a 10 year old car. Meanwhile theres still tons of late 90s+ cars out there uneffected by that. I mean my 9 year old car still gets the same 26-30 mpg depending on driving it did when it was brand new. The wifes new SUV will still get the same 21-25 mpg at that age as well. I mean the article even mentions a 20% reduction on a vehicle that is barely used but maintained still.
 
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I mean thats a far drasitc reduction in range for less then a 10 year old car. Meanwhile theres still tons of late 90s+ cars out there uneffected by that. I mean my 9 year old car still gets the same 26-30 mpg depending on driving it did when it was brand new. The wifes new SUV will still get the same 21-25 mpg at that age as well. I mean the article even mentions a 20% reduction on a vehicle that is barely used but maintained still.
You evidently have it in your head that EV's are bad, and no one is going to change your mind. If you can't look at that report, and see the positives, you're never going to be convinced.

You're comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing a storage tank to a fuel source. You're comparing capacity to efficiency.

Yes, the BEV's storage tank is now 15% smaller. What you haven't factored in is that your 9 year old car has went through 20 oil changes, probably a belt, some spark plugs, transmission maintenance, etc. and has used up a lot more than 15% of its life, unless you think you can keep driving that car for the next 51 years. Every moving part of that powertrain is now 9 years old and has been through 9 years of use. Your motor/transmission will give out before the rest of the car. The battery in the BEV will most likely outlast the rest of the vehicle.
 
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You evidently have it in your head that EV's are bad, and no one is going to change your mind. If you can't look at that report, and see the positives, you're never going to be convinced.

You're comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing a storage tank to a fuel source. You're comparing capacity to efficiency.

Yes, the BEV's storage tank is now 15% smaller. What you haven't factored in is that your 9 year old car has went through 20 oil changes, probably a belt, some spark plugs, transmission maintenance, etc. and has used up a lot more than 15% of its life, unless you think you can keep driving that car for the next 51 years. Every moving part of that powertrain is now 9 years old and has been through 9 years of use. Your motor/transmission will give out before the rest of the car. The battery in the BEV will most likely outlast the rest of the vehicle.
YEP!

Fighting against batteries and EVs right now is like fighting against cars and wanting horses to be the main source of transportation in 1910-1915...
 
You evidently have it in your head that EV's are bad, and no one is going to change your mind. If you can't look at that report, and see the positives, you're never going to be convinced.

You're comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing a storage tank to a fuel source. You're comparing capacity to efficiency.

Yes, the BEV's storage tank is now 15% smaller. What you haven't factored in is that your 9 year old car has went through 20 oil changes, probably a belt, some spark plugs, transmission maintenance, etc. and has used up a lot more than 15% of its life, unless you think you can keep driving that car for the next 51 years. Every moving part of that powertrain is now 9 years old and has been through 9 years of use. Your motor/transmission will give out before the rest of the car. The battery in the BEV will most likely outlast the rest of the vehicle.

it is amazing to me that someone that works in Wind Tech doesn't understand that EV & battery tech keeps getting better and will continue to increase value of EV vs ICE vehicles
 
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