Toure
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Pretty good example of how not to use your screener by Stirtz, too. He made it way to easy for Toure to go over the top by leaving 4 feet of space between himself and the screener. You can't do that with Toure's lateral quickness. What's the point of setting the screen if you're not trying to rub your guy off on it.
Right now, he's shooting 39% from three. Obviously that's a small sample, and I'd bet that he'll settle below that as he gets more volume. But I'm pretty sure he's adequate enough that he won't scare NBA teams off. They'll especially want him to grow as a shooter off the dribble and other shots where he doesn't have a lot of time, but he's starting off from a better spot than I expected coming into the year.
Possibly the most mature freshman I've ever seen in a Cyclone uniform. Right up there with Grayer, Fizer, and Georges.
I'm not searching down film but take a look how Milan is using the pick and roll this year. He's rubbing him off and sitting in that small pocket right behind the screener for a 3, forcing the switch or using the roll. This action has definitely improved this year and a lot of the reason why he's getting his shots up.
Guys like Milan and Stirtz only need a little bit of space and it's amazing that Iowa didn't address that in real time.
I know it was said but I'm also not sure why Toure wasn't out there in the final two minutes. If anyone was going to hit big shots for Iowa, it was Stirtz and Toure was absolutely man handling him.
Guys like Milan and Stirtz only need a little bit of space and it's amazing that Iowa didn't address that in real time.
I know it was said but I'm also not sure why Toure wasn't out there in the final two minutes. If anyone was going to hit big shots for Iowa, it was Stirtz and Toure was absolutely man handling him.
Said it before, I'll say it again. Foreign players can't be paid due to student visa rules.
I noticed that too. But I also commented to my wife to watch how Toure is able to squeeze through gaps to get over screens while staying in front of Stirtz. He really has a knack and gets after it.
I watch a ton of NBA and would generally agree with this. I'm sure some forward thinking front office would be more than happy to stash him as a developmental flyer this go around, but for his own sake, a sophomore season getting a bigger offensive load to show how you can handle being a lead initiator and ironing out some shot mechanics would be big to get himself into lottery range, bigger investment, etc.
I think what Cason Wallace is for OKC could be a good model to aim for, great point of attack defender that can put a ton of ball pressure on different positions on a defense that flies around, and on offense, is kind of the secondary initiator that can run quick little actions as the 1b point guard after the ball rotates out of SGA's hands and the defense is in rotation, but maybe not THE point guard.
Just because you say it doesn't make it true. You're better off saying "foreign players can be paid, but they are more restricted on how compared to U.S. players"
Zach Edey absolutely made money while at Purdue (Canadian.)
I missed the part about merchandising/licensing, even then that's a tiny piece compared to what other guys get from Rev share. I dont think anyone in France or the Ivory Coast is going to shell out money for a guard at Iowa State.
Also in regards to Edey https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...rdue-zach-edey-missing-profits-due-us-nil-law
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It would be a gift if Toure stayed here all year, but - as a point of comparison - I think you could look to Lipsey's freshman year.
Our team was less talented at that time. so on one hand you could say things were more difficult for Lipsey. On the other, you could say that Toure is maybe taking more of a "back seat" given the upperclassman we have this year. Simplest example is we really don't need him to score.
If you look at the rebounds, assists, steals, TOs, they are similar. Toure is already scoring more and - the biggest gap - is he's shooting much better from 3 (Lipsey was 20% his freshman year and it got so bad teams were sagging off him begging him to shoot).
Tamin is all-american caliber and brings intangibles that are really, really hard to replicate. But purely in terms of skill-set and physical tools (height, vertical, wingspan - I read somehwere Toure has 6'9" which is insane) I think Toure has equal or better upside. That is scary to think about.
Our team was less talented at that time. so on one hand you could say things were more difficult for Lipsey. On the other, you could say that Toure is maybe taking more of a "back seat" given the upperclassman we have this year. Simplest example is we really don't need him to score.
If you look at the rebounds, assists, steals, TOs, they are similar. Toure is already scoring more and - the biggest gap - is he's shooting much better from 3 (Lipsey was 20% his freshman year and it got so bad teams were sagging off him begging him to shoot).
Tamin is all-american caliber and brings intangibles that are really, really hard to replicate. But purely in terms of skill-set and physical tools (height, vertical, wingspan - I read somehwere Toure has 6'9" which is insane) I think Toure has equal or better upside. That is scary to think about.
thanks twin imma be active. I'm 15 with no job and season tickets so I'm locked.
No. And ofc they aren't making as much as Jefferson, Lipsey, Momcilovic, but all I can say to it is that Toure & Pleta are paid to come here/play here. Idk what loophole or channel is used exactly (Toure did play his senior year in America at Brewster Academy fwiw) and idk if or when the rules will change on it, but they are both making 6 figures.
I'm sure JJ is making over $1mil. Milan and Tamin probably around 500-750K. Batemon is making the most out of the freshman.
I get why some people here think it's obvious Toure will jump to NBA at first chance and they may be right. I'm just saying this isn't the old days where some players were living in borderline poverty on campus playing CBB.
They have nice lives and while the paycheck isn't the same as if they were an NBA lottery pick, the jump to pros is always risky. I won't claim to know what is in these kid's hearts or minds, but maybe they like the conservative approach of making guaranteed money (even if less than their American teammates) and getting to live out their college life. Those college years are all short and sweet as many of us know already.
The shot and the offense are not a problem for the NBA. They draft on talent and potential not readymade skill. His one limit is probably height (6-3?). Which is a little short. If he was 6-6 people would be talking about him as a lotto lock right now.
