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No Bowl Game — Iowa State Turns Down Bowl Bid

2speedy1 said:
Problem is, if they all go away, everyone loses out. Bowls pay money, so schools lose, Bowl venues/locations lose out on business and money from bowl guests. Fans lose out on bowl games to go to during holidays. Players lose out on having bowl game as a reward.

I agree the system is broken and I dont know what the fix is at this point. But bowls going away all together is not a good thing.

Maybe more of the bowls need to be incorporated into the playoff if they are going to continue expanding it. Meaning Alamo, Holiday etc become 1st/2nd round games etc. I dont really know at this point, everything is such a mess, and those with the control only see dollar signs, and that means basically a 2 conference playoff that consolidates as much of the power and money in those 2 leagues.
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Small bowls can actually cost schools money. Mandatory ticket purchases. Travel, lodging,plus taking a whole entourage of people. Can easily eat up the bowl payout plus additional cash.
 
Stormin said:
Small bowls can actually cost schools money. Mandatory ticket purchases. Travel, lodging,plus taking a whole entourage of people. Can easily eat up the bowl payout plus additional cash.
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Small bowls maybe, but bowls like the Alamo, Texas, etc pay enough to cover and with some left over. And that being said maybe that is the first step bowls need to pay more, maybe they need to pay into NIL. None of that will happen if they just go away.

That being said bowls pay the conference and it is divided equally so the big bowls make up for the small ones and schools come out in the black.
 
2speedy1 said:
Small bowls maybe, but bowls like the Alamo, Texas, etc pay enough to cover and with some left over. And that being said maybe that is the first step bowls need to pay more, maybe they need to pay into NIL. None of that will happen if they just go away.

That being said bowls pay the conference and it is divided equally so the big bowls make up for the small ones and schools come out in the black.
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We were being slated for Liberty and Independence. Could we sell a thousand tickets to those places?
 
CentexCyclone said:
I'm having a hard time understanding the decision not to play in a bowl game.

I recall JP saying we were going to play in a bowl game during his Friday press conference. But then players just decided not to play and that's that? Who is running the show here?

Is their justification really plausible? "Members of the athletics administrative team and the previous coaching staff met with the players this morning and had a robust discussion about the team's ability to play in a post season bowl game. After that discussion, the players voted not to play in a post-season game due to lack of health players to safely practice and play."

Um what? Didn't the team just compete against Oklahoma State just over a week ago? And wouldn't a post season game include several weeks to get injured players healthy? This justification is hard to believe.

Furthermore, what are members of the previous coaching staff doing in this conversation about playing or not playing? That could be a conflict of interest if they are angling to get hired at Penn State. Could they be nudging ISU best players not to play in the bowl game and avoid injury in exchange for those players transferring to Penn State (and its bigger NIL) when the portal re-opens in early January?

This decision also costs the team an extra month of practice, which is typically a time when younger players get a lot of reps and helps jump start the following spring practice. Why give that up?

Then there's the financial impact: Missing out on the bowl game payout on top of $500K fine. Maybe ISU Athletics has plenty of money sitting around, but why take that hit at all?

Finally, who is representing the interests of the thousands of Cyclone faithful who have given to the We Will Collective in the effort to retain players? A lot of us have donated to the collective and expect the players we pay to play. Most of us just can't go tell our bosses we don't feel like doing our jobs anymore and expect to get paid.

Somebody please tell me what I am missing.
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To boil your post down, I think what you’re missing is most of these players are entering the transfer portal and won’t be on the team come the bowl game. So we probably won’t have an adequate number of players to field a team, literally.

Akin to an employee quitting their job.
 
Stormin said:
We were being slated for Liberty and Independence. Could we sell a thousand tickets to those places?
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probably at least, not like years past but yes over a thousand for sure, there will be people that still go.

That being said what those bowls pay is not what we earn. We earn a share of all the bowls plus playoff combined and divided by conference members.

1 thing is for sure, not playing in one of those bowls, cost us $500K, plus what 1/16th of what each bowl declined by the conference pays. So if we skip out on the Rate bowl, and liberty bowl as a conference we lose their pay as a conference, so our share of it. As of 2022 the Liberty bowl was paying $6M to the conference so Im sure its a bit more than that now, Independence at that time was about $2.5M, Rate paid about $1.5M. Alamo is about $10M, Pop Tarts and Texas are about $6.5M each.
 
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