Cracks in the B1G?
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Does anyone really think this wasn't the inevitable result? There's nothing special about the bottom half of the B10 (or SEC), they just got to ride the realignment coattails of a few programs for the past 15 years due to geographical luck and historical ties.
The Blue Bloods will inevitably come for their slice when they can't find any more outside their conference.
The Blue Bloods will inevitably come for their slice when they can't find any more outside their conference.
Yup, they’ll be lucky if they can hang on to ‘second tier’ money with the likes of Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Ideally they splurge on the academic brands- adding Calford and UVa. They won’t ever join Big 12, so have them bleed the BIG
The lower BIG schools will still have an advantage of a huge pooling of rights that take all the best tv spots, and from schedules/perception.
But they’d be M schools masquerading as P2 schools
Unequal sharing is inevitable for the Big Ten and SEC and will eventually lead to them splitting up into the high rollers and the not-so high rollers and we'll end up with conferences of 10-12 teams again. That's my 20 year prediction.
But...this says nothing about some Big10 schools making less than schools in the Big12 or ACC right? This just implies schools like Ohio State would make more than some of the other conference schools. Would Iowa or Northwestern or Purdue leave because they aren't getting equal revenue? Doubt it...they would still likely be getting paid more than schools in other leagues (non-SEC).
I will die on the hill that the years leading up the SEC signing up with ESPN the Big 12 was the best conference in America. Texas and OU had won championships in the last 5-7 years. OSU and TT were on the rise. Nebraska was still respectable and only 5ish years removed from a championship game appearance.
Had that conference stayed together with no other realignment, I have zero doubt we would still be considered one of the best if not the best in the country.
Had that conference stayed together with no other realignment, I have zero doubt we would still be considered one of the best if not the best in the country.
Yeah whenever I see people talk about how much longer until the big ten trims the fat of northwestern and Purdue? Or will the SEC kick out Vanderbilt.
I think it is more likely that the top schools leave and form their own conference. No one wants to be the “bad guy” that kicks out a school. However, you can be the guy that leaves for greener pastures and spin it off letting the bottom feeders keep the name. Similar to the pac 12 in name only but no substance.
Yeah, hat’s what I think happens too. Because you also don’t need to worry about having the votes to kick out a member
I hope the Big Ten moves towards unequal revenue distribution of media rights so the lower-tier Big Ten teams get a taste of their own medicine. Maybe it eventually causes the league to split. College athletics needs to return to regionality in some capacity, and Iowa State is both geographically and culturally closer to programs like Iowa, Missouri, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Illinois, Kansas, and Kansas State.
The B12 was a microcosm of college football over the past 20 years or so. The B10 and SEC have been ruthless in getting the biggest and best cut for themselves to the detriment of the sport. Similarly, Texas, A&M, Nebraska and Oklahoma were ruthless in getting the biggest and best cut for themselves at the detriment of the conference.
The same dynamics that ruined the original B12 are coming for the B10 and SEC. The Blue Bloods in those conferences just had the good sense to eliminate other viable landing spots before going after their conference mates' slices.
Yes, there are people that really think this way: Iowa fans, in particular, and fans of other schools in the Big 10 and SEC that have a similar or lesser cache.
And it’s really funny - we warned them for years, while they were mocking the Big 12 revenue sharing model, that it was inevitable for the Big 10 as well, that Ohio St and Michigan would one day get sick of sharing equally with the lesser members of the conference… only to be ridiculed, claiming “Ohio St and Michigan actually care about us”. Maybe that actually was the case a decade and more ago, but the Big 10 after realignment is barely recognizable. Sure, the core is still there, but the power has greatly shifted away from the core, and with that shift, mentality of those in power was certain to shift as well. So it’s no surprise that with all of that change, Ohio St and Michigan would change their stance as well.
As far as the SEC… they were warned about Texas. Hell, the history is there - their greed and arrogance destroyed the SWC and nearly brought ruin to the Big 12 as well (thank goodness for Yormark). It’s only a matter of time before it happens to the SEC as well, and if this is truly happening in the Big 10, it will happen in the SEC as well.
KidSilverhair
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Conferences of 10-12 teams again: Good
CFP where two of those conferences get all but two of the spots:
Nebraska's disdain for Texas pushing its weight around is really what sunk the original Big12 conference. It's sad because the original big 12 was a much better football conference from top to bottom than the big 10.
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Yeah, it really just depends on the next deal that the Big 10 gets. Will enough more money get added to prevent teams from taking a pay cut to satisfy Ohio State's appetite? Even if it came to them making less, I don't see a scenario where the drop would be significant enough to drop them below the Big 12 or ACC, though. I assume Ohio State wouldn't go full Texas and blow things up that badly.
Why don't the other 34 teams in the B1G "just say no"? It's not like Michigan and tOSU can outvote them.
Because Oregon, Penn St, USC would want a higher cut too. Maybe even Washington.
Cuz OSU and Mich can threaten to go to the SEC or make an agreement with the big boys in the SEC to get a super league... game theory then comes into play for a Purdue. Do you want a smaller slice of a large pie or risk a tiny pie/no pie at all?
Were we not told for years on here by the B10 brethren that their league would never allow unequal revenue shares and that they were somehow immune to what the "lesser" league like the B12 had to deal with. The B10 schools were special and they would look out for one another for the good of the league as a whole, more than each individual school.
Funny how that is now starting to change, but don't worry, before long those same people will be saying "it's OK to have unequal revenue, and we still make more than B12 schools." forgetting all about it would never happen in their league.
Funny how that is now starting to change, but don't worry, before long those same people will be saying "it's OK to have unequal revenue, and we still make more than B12 schools." forgetting all about it would never happen in their league.
