Cracks in the B1G?

The thing that made the Big 10 the behemoth it is was that Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State never showed interest in joining another conference and instead brought the big brands to them.

That's really it. If Texas, Nebraska, Aggy, and Oklahoma had taken that same mentality there's no reason the Big 12 couldn't have the same power.

Yeah the minute it flipped to actual college sports eyeballs (streaming or on demand) with the old alignment the Big 12 would have been fine. It was always a top 2 or 3 league in results. The only negative it had was cable TV population footprint...if time zones were such a huge thing a few more mountain schools were always there (in addition to existing Colorado) without even breaking up the Pac.
 
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Nebraska's disdain for Texas pushing its weight around is really what sunk the original Big12 conference. It's sad because the original big 12 was a much better football conference from top to bottom than the big 10.

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Correct, then you throw in that aTm always was looking to get out the shadow of UT, Colorado wanted to be part of the Pac12, thinking they were more aligned with those schools and Mizzu coming to the realization that if the league fell about, they may be left on the outside looking in. Each school was looking out for itself and its own future, nothing wrong with that, but that is what destroyed the league and now its happening in the B10, just like many of us predicted it would,
 
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My guess is the next step will be for the top teams wanting to keep TV rights for 1 or 2 non-conference games. They’ll setup games between themselves to get the high revenue games without sharing that. They’ll get the money while staying in the current conference structure.
 
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Yeah, it really just depends on the next deal that the Big 10 gets. Will enough more money get added to prevent teams from taking a pay cut to satisfy Ohio State's appetite? Even if it came to them making less, I don't see a scenario where the drop would be significant enough to drop them below the Big 12 or ACC, though. I assume Ohio State wouldn't go full Texas and blow things up that badly.
Why wouldn't they push for a bigger cut? Where are the likes of Iowa or Indiana going to go? Yeah, they're sitting at the table with the big boys, but what are they going to do when the big boys demand they hand over more? Are they going to stick around as long as they're making more than the B12/ACC, even if it's a nominal amount? Probably. Will their fans talk themselves into believing it's a phenomenal deal? Probably.
 
Nebraska's disdain for Texas pushing its weight around is really what sunk the original Big12 conference. It's sad because the original big 12 was a much better football conference from top to bottom than the big 10.

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Even the Big 8 was a better conference.
 
This is the next step, but the end game is really the Super League. I’ve always thought this will come to fruition, and probably sooner rather than later (like within 10 years), because media rights will not continue to increase in perpetuity.

These huge media rights deals are built on Cable TV, which is dying its accelerating death. Streamers will pay, but I doubt they pay as much as cable companies because they aren’t as reliant on live TV events like cable companies are. The only live event company that can demand a price is the NFL. That’s it. NBA may be second because there is an international value with that product.

When the media rights bubble pops, the only way the big brands will see growth in revenue is to take a higher share of the media rights they are able to get. And the most efficient way to do that is create a league with only the top brands.
 
This is fantastic news. The best possible outcome for the ISUs of the world. It was already impossible for most of the SEC and Big 10 to compete for conference championships. Now they'll get less money AND have lesser brands? That's an insurmountable structural disadvantage. Welcome to small market baseball, you sell outs! hahahahaha

Exactly. The money leagues going unequal makes them small market baseball.

The money leagues dissolving to become a super league would be profitable for a few years but in the long run it would be AAA baseball regional minor league sports in small markets that nobody cares about.
 
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Why don't the other 34 teams in the B1G "just say no"? It's not like Michigan and tOSU can outvote them.

This assumes that tOSU would accept a no-vote and stay put without taking any other drastic action. Maybe there there is an implied "or-else" to their demands.

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This is the next step, but the end game is really the Super League. I’ve always thought this will come to fruition, and probably sooner rather than later (like within 10 years), because media rights will not continue to increase in perpetuity.

These huge media rights deals are built on Cable TV, which is dying its accelerating death. Streamers will pay, but I doubt they pay as much as cable companies because they aren’t as reliant on live TV events like cable companies are. The only live event company that can demand a price is the NFL. That’s it. NBA may be second because there is an international value with that product.

When the media rights bubble pops, the only way the big brands will see growth in revenue is to take a higher share of the media rights they are able to get. And the most efficient way to do that is create a league with only the top brands.

Long term superleague is the death of the sport too. It's regional minor league pro sports and only like 1% of the country would have a tie to the university vs a few years ago when FBS was like 130 huge schools.

A university in every single market and especially those without pro sports is the edge college football had on pro sports. They are pi$$ing that away as fast as possible.
 
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This is the next step, but the end game is really the Super League. I’ve always thought this will come to fruition, and probably sooner rather than later (like within 10 years), because media rights will not continue to increase in perpetuity.

These huge media rights deals are built on Cable TV, which is dying its accelerating death. Streamers will pay, but I doubt they pay as much as cable companies because they aren’t as reliant on live TV events like cable companies are. The only live event company that can demand a price is the NFL. That’s it. NBA may be second because there is an international value with that product.

When the media rights bubble pops, the only way the big brands will see growth in revenue is to take a higher share of the media rights they are able to get. And the most efficient way to do that is create a league with only the top brands.
They want super league money and not play a super league schedule.
 
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So.... if a "Superleague" is created, would you watch it? College fans are pretty passionate about their schools, and if yours is not in there, I'm guessing they won't watch. I know I won't.
 
They want super league money and not play a super league schedule.

I think keeping what they have and maybe adding 2-3 of the top ND/ACC brands but with unequal sharing is the way to maximize their profits without imploding the entire sport. Talking about B10/SEC collectively.
 
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So.... if a "Superleague" is created, would you watch it? College fans are pretty passionate about their schools, and if yours is not in there, I'm guessing they won't watch. I know I won't.

I'm already not watching any Big Ten or SEC for the first time. Unless it's vs Big 12. Totally tuned out Texas/OSU and Mich/OU. In the past I'd have watched those.
 
All of our Iowa/Big Ten regular posters here swear it is absolutely impossible.
Unequal media revenue sharing? I never said it was "absolutely impossible" I've said I don't think it will happen and still don't. Even if it does it's not happening for at least 5 years.
 
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So.... if a "Superleague" is created, would you watch it? College fans are pretty passionate about their schools, and if yours is not in there, I'm guessing they won't watch. I know I won't.
I wouldn’t.
 
Long term superleague is the death of the sport too. It's regional minor league pro sports and only like 1% of the country would have a tie to the university vs a few years ago when FBS was like 130 huge schools.

A university in every single market and especially those without pro sports is the edge college football had on pro sports. They are pi$$ing that away as fast as possible.
I 100% agree. But the top brands won’t see it that way. Especially in the short term. Uni presidents will make decisions that are beneficial during their tenure. They don’t care what happens after they’re gone.

The sport already is becoming a regional entity. It owns the Midwest and Southeast and has little influence or even presence in the west coast or northeast, which are the two most populated regions in the country. It has 0 value internationally (although the Irish locals had a blast). There is no long term growth with this sport. And I keep saying, the NFL could kill it entirely if they get to start playing on Saturdays.
 
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