FriendlySpartan said:

Sure you need those traits but most can be taught. The point is you don’t need elite size or speed to be a world class soccer player, technique and skill beats all that. Just playing professionally your speed, endurance and agility will already have a good baseline.

You could 100% could turn a kid that had the right drive and determination to be an elite soccer player with those resources. Europe is littered with those kinds of guys that just worked harder than anyone else. You don’t top end size or speed to deliver. Hell if you lack endurance congrats your a 65-70min sub that comes on and just scores

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FriendlySpartan said:

Yep the best in the world certainly do, good news is there are a ton of other positions that don’t require top end speed and even some of the up top guys don’t have it.

Like I said it’s not about being an all time great where people know your name, it’s about making the USMNT that is a much lower bar to clear.

I’m not gonna convince you or anyone that disagrees with me, I can’t prove my point since it’s purely hypothetical so I’ll agree to disagree and stop derailing this thread (even though we have a day and a half before France)

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jmb said:

You are 100% wrong. You are confident so there is that.

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FriendlySpartan said:

You don’t need elite speed to be a pro soccer player I just gave you an example. I don’t know why you keep brining up basketball here

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FriendlySpartan said:

Yep the best in the world certainly do, good news is there are a ton of other positions that don’t require top end speed and even some of the up top guys don’t have it.

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Like I said it’s not about being an all time great where people know your name, it’s about making the USMNT that is a much lower bar to clear.

I’m not gonna convince you or anyone that disagrees with me, I can’t prove my point since it’s purely hypothetical so I’ll agree to disagree and stop derailing this thread (even though we have a day and a half before France)

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deadeyededric said:

A quick google search will tell you these guys consistently reach speeds between 20 and 23mph. Especially attackers.

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FriendlySpartan said:

That was a decade ago my man. He’s not even close to that when he scored on us. It’s common knowledge about how slow and low endurance he is

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cyclonespiker33 said:

There are women's volleyball athletes that have contracts over a million dollars.

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FriendlySpartan said:

That was a decade ago my man. He’s not even close to that when he scored on us. It’s common knowledge about how slow and low endurance he is

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clonechemist said:

Romelu Lukaku Clocked the Fastest Speed of Any Premier League Player This Weekend - VERSUS

Lukaku was faster than Rashford, Walcott and Zaha.

www.versus.uk.com

Lukaku doesn’t have elite speed? Try again

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clonechemist said:

Romelu Lukaku Clocked the Fastest Speed of Any Premier League Player This Weekend - VERSUS

Lukaku was faster than Rashford, Walcott and Zaha.

www.versus.uk.com

Lukaku doesn’t have elite speed? Try again

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Clonefan32 said:

These European countries are identifying the best-of-the-best at an extremely early age and are spending 15 years training them professionally. That just isn't happening here. Sure, we have tons of kids playing club soccer. But how many of our most elite athletes are taking it up full time and receiving the type of training the Europeans are?

I think our reality is we have to just keep hoping European raised kids with ties to America continue to want to play for our national team. Because developing talent herein the US is just way too far behind. We've wound up with a few mid-level European trained players, and backfilling with average MLS guys. That just isn't going to work.

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FriendlySpartan said:

Yeah everyone that barely works out is gonna be that high. You can’t compare athletes to the general population that’s just kinda foolish. Anyone that has unlimited resources to train is already going to be in that percentage by default as “among humans” as you mention that isn’t hard to be there

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FriendlySpartan said:

That 40 number is laughable z Big rom can’t run below a 5, James Milner was slow and played till he was 40+. VVD is below that time.

There a tons of pros who don’t come close to that criteria

If you have that level of training by default you are going to be in the top 97% of your number that I assume is pretty accurate if not underselling

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Romelu Lukaku Clocked the Fastest Speed of Any Premier League Player This Weekend - VERSUS

Lukaku was faster than Rashford, Walcott and Zaha.

www.versus.uk.com

deadeyededric said:

I was talking about NFL wide receivers more specifically. But I can assure you the people you mentioned are in the 10th percentile of fast among humans.

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FriendlySpartan said:

That 40 number is laughable z Big rom can’t run below a 5, James Milner was slow and played till he was 40+. VVD is below that time.

There a tons of pros who don’t come close to that criteria

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3TrueFans said:

So you’re saying I could have been Messi if someone would have just taught me how to be Messi? Talk about a missed opportunity.

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deadeyededric said:

You dont need world class sprinter speed but you need excellent speed. I mean at least quick enough to get by defenders. You need to be in the 90th percentile of all humans when it comes to speed. You just do. You dont necessarily have to run a 4.4 to be a great reciever but you arent running less than a 4.6 which makes you faster than 97% of humans on the planet. Enough with your nonsense. Youre brighter than this.

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BryceC said:

I’m talking 2-3 times per week 52 weeks per year.

No.

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