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Just got the email from YouTube that they're beginning the crediting process. Good on them, **** ESPN.

A $20 credit on an $83 base price for losing ESPN seems a bit low to me. It’d be nice if they at least covered the ESPN Ultimate cost.

If they’re really paying Disney $20 / subscriber for ESPN, it makes you wonder how much they’re paying to have all those other worthless channels. And it makes me hope more that they will be able to negotiate a slim sports package out of all of this. Cause ESPN and Fox are 90% of the value of YTTV to me. But as I’ve discovered this last week, the YTTV guide and convenience of having it under one app is the other 10%. The ESPN app is a disaster.
 
A $20 credit on an $83 base price for losing ESPN seems a bit low to me. It’d be nice if they at least covered the ESPN Ultimate cost.

If they’re really paying Disney $20 / subscriber for ESPN, it makes you wonder how much they’re paying to have all those other worthless channels. And it makes me hope more that they will be able to negotiate a slim sports package out of all of this. Cause ESPN and Fox are 90% of the value of YTTV to me. But as I’ve discovered this last week, the YTTV guide and convenience of having it under one app is the other 10%. The ESPN app is a disaster.
In general, I agree. What I'd prefer is some transparency in how much of that $83 goes towards Disney, and then give a daily credit. But they won't be that open.

Only hope is someone takes this to court and something comes of it.
 
Yeah. I am a new customer of 3 or 4 weeks. Save $10 a month for 3 months. Would cancel or pause soon, but guess when I resume I would lose the $10 credit per month, but really only watch sports, so that little savings really doesn't mean much.
 
I'm not sure I would cancel anyways but I have Sunday Ticket so they have me by the short hairs (if you cancel your base plan you lose the Sunday Ticket). I'll take any amount of credits they give me.
 
I'm not sure I would cancel anyways but I have Sunday Ticket so they have me by the short hairs (if you cancel your base plan you lose the Sunday Ticket). I'll take any amount of credits they give me.

Do you? I thought Sunday ticket was a standalone product that you could get even without the base plan. Cause they certainly aren’t going to refund that ST at all (or stop charging you if on a monthly payment plan).
 
A $20 credit on an $83 base price for losing ESPN seems a bit low to me. It’d be nice if they at least covered the ESPN Ultimate cost.

If they’re really paying Disney $20 / subscriber for ESPN, it makes you wonder how much they’re paying to have all those other worthless channels. And it makes me hope more that they will be able to negotiate a slim sports package out of all of this. Cause ESPN and Fox are 90% of the value of YTTV to me. But as I’ve discovered this last week, the YTTV guide and convenience of having it under one app is the other 10%. The ESPN app is a disaster.
The last time I heard the numbers, ESPN was $15/month and the next most expensive channel was less than $3.
 
$20 credit is a nice gesture but likely wont do anything for me. I'll be dropping YoutubeTV by my next billing cycle if its not resolved.

Yea, I’m not staying with YTTV for the next billing cycle if they don’t have ESPN. Guessing a bunch of folks think the same.

Probably gonna go to Fubu. Only downside is no TNT/TBS
 
Yea, I’m not staying with YTTV for the next billing cycle if they don’t have ESPN. Guessing a bunch of folks think the same.

Probably gonna go to Fubu. Only downside is no TNT/TBS
I'll probably be doing Sling for that reason. I have an antenna so not worried about local channels
 
I'm not sure I would cancel anyways but I have Sunday Ticket so they have me by the short hairs (if you cancel your base plan you lose the Sunday Ticket). I'll take any amount of credits they give me.
This is the same problem we have. Kind of like Direct Tv, for the Chicago stations and the amount of streams you can have.
 
Upgrade to ESPN Unlimited

And how can I do that...? Just log into ESPN+ and click around for a link?

Not trying to be dense here, but the Hulu/Disney+/ESPN+ bundle is in my wife's name, which makes it a little tricker to navigate and manage it because I can't get into her email and she's not tech-savvy.
 
A $20 credit on an $83 base price for losing ESPN seems a bit low to me. It’d be nice if they at least covered the ESPN Ultimate cost.

If they’re really paying Disney $20 / subscriber for ESPN, it makes you wonder how much they’re paying to have all those other worthless channels. And it makes me hope more that they will be able to negotiate a slim sports package out of all of this. Cause ESPN and Fox are 90% of the value of YTTV to me. But as I’ve discovered this last week, the YTTV guide and convenience of having it under one app is the other 10%. The ESPN app is a disaster.

The last time this happened they gave a 15 dollar credit and it was only out for a weekend. Twenty bucks ain’t ****.
 
I mostly watch sports center to fall asleep. But now I’ve discovered the world at war channel which puts me lights out in under 5 minutes. Have no need for ESPN anymore.
 
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The last time this happened they gave a 15 dollar credit and it was only out for a weekend. Twenty bucks ain’t ****.
I was able to get a credit for $10 off per month for the next 6 months, in addition to the email that just came out for the $20 one time credit.
 
Just claimed by YTTV $20 credit.

Now, how do I upgrade by ESPN from Select to Unlimited? It directed me to my I-Tunes account, but it only gives me the option of switched from monthly to annual billing.
 
The last time I heard the numbers, ESPN was $15/month and the next most expensive channel was less than $3.
By $15 a month I assume you mean all Disney Channels??? I would think all of Fox's channels would be more than $3. That's the dispute in a nutshell. These big media companies have an all or nothing sales offer. For example they can't offer you jusr Fox, FS1, and BTN for people who only want sports. You also have to purchase all the other Fox News Channels etc. thus driving up the price for YTTV.
 
Sling daily pass + sports package for basically $6 is the way for me. I only watch ESPN for ISU games, and for basketball I don't need it for a while after today. I still get the plus games with the Disney+/ESPN/Hulu bundle from years ago that I'm not changing.
 
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By $15 a month I assume you mean all Disney Channels??? I would think all of Fox's channels would be more than $3. That's the dispute in a nutshell. These big media companies have an all or nothing sales offer. For example they can't offer you jusr Fox, FS1, and BTN for people who only want sports. You also have to purchase all the other Fox News Channels etc. thus driving up the price for YTTV.

Which is where they could get in trouble with the courts. If they only offer ESPN as a bundle with Disney to YTTV and offer ESPN as a standalone service direct to consumers, that could very well be seen as an anti-competitive act. Without knowledge of what YTTV is actually asking for, I hope this is the crux of their argument in these negotiations.

If YTTV were to offer an ESPN, Fox, TNT package, I’d be all over it. Essentially give us the package that those companies tried to do with their Venu service, but with a good interface. I’d certainly pay $10 / month to keep the YTTV interface rather than doing the individual apps.
 

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