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Xavier Townsend decommits

Wait, you mean to tell me that there will be a dozen or so teams at an extreme financial advantage in college football of all places? My God, the horror!

Man, I have no idea how we will find a way to compete no longer being on the same pedestal as Alabama, Ohio State and Texas in terms of financial resources.
 
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Clonefan32 said:
So someone hasn't quite explained to me yet why notable football power house UCF can offer NIL money and we can't....?
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First off, no one is saying he got Nwankpa money. But it’s a brand new day for UCF, and they have all kinds of untapped resources just itching to play P5 football. Getting a 4 star recruit is a big deal. And this gives them even more ammo on the recruiting trail.

second, Florida is pretty brazen when it comes to football, add in malzhan, and they have a plan. They’re never going to get guys that want to go SEC, but kids like Xavier are perfect targets.
 
Clonefan32 said:
Wait, you mean to tell me that there will be a dozen or so teams at an extreme financial advantage in college football of all places? My God, the horror!

Man, I have no idea how we will find a way to compete no longer being on the same pedestal as Alabama, Ohio State and Texas in terms of financial resources.
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No one is talking about the Bamas, OSU's and Texas's. But when peer level teams have better donors and more money available for NIL it's going to drive us down farther.
 
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Clonefan32 said:
Wait, you mean to tell me that there will be a dozen or so teams at an extreme financial advantage in college football of all places? My God, the horror!

Man, I have no idea how we will find a way to compete no longer being on the same pedestal as Alabama, Ohio State and Texas in terms of financial resources.
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I’m not taking the time to look, but I assume you never complained this past football season, then

And the problem will be when we can’t compete with schools like Illinois northwestern Minnesota Missouri Oklahoma state Texas tech and the list goes on and on
 
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CyJack13 said:
It’s so annoying that so much of our fan base sees ourselves as losers who can’t possibly compete. There’s a whole lot of other schools out there besides the Bama’s, Ohio St’s and Texases of the world. No reason we can’t compete with the next tier of schools for recruits and actually try to make the NIL rules work for us.
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It isn't about "trying to make the NIL rules work for us." There simply isn't a strategy JP can deploy that changes the fact that we have very low donations and AD revenue compared to most schools. Short of simply raising a **** ton more money, there's not really a strategy to make this work for ISU relative to peer athletic departments.

People that think this is going to be not much of a disadvantage or a marginal one are fooling themselves. It's already cleared for private NIL cash. That puts ISU at a disadvantage to other P5 schools, not just the bluebloods. The stage is being set for direct payments from schools one way or another. If nothing else, donors can be encouraged to provide NIL funds while ADs fund things with TV revenue that would've been at least in part supported by donor dollars. That also puts ISU at a further disadvantage off the bat to every Big 10 and SEC school, even the bad ones, barring a surprise boost in media dollars.

The bottom line is this is going to be a shift in disparity in competitiveness unlike anything we've seen. If anyone doubts it, look at how NDSU, SDSU have blown past UNI. A huge part of that is those schools offering total cost of attendance. And that is very small compared to what we are likely to see in an NIL world.

I don't like to mix the right/wrong of NIL argument with the impacts to ISU. I think they are two very different arguments. Unless something pretty drastic changes in terms of rules, laws, ISU media $ or ISU donor $, ISU football is going to devastated by this. My opinion is that eventually college football is devastated by this and the money starts shrinking eventually as more and more schools fall by the wayside. But we'll see.
 
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There are literally dozens of possibilities short of "BAGZ OF CA$H" for why this kid changed his mind. Maybe Malzhan showed more interest after the ratings bump. Maybe he had people in his life push UCF. Maybe he decided he wanted to stay close to home. Maybe it was the Campbell leaving rumors. As it turns out, an 18 year old changing his mind isn't exactly unheard of. But all of those things make more practical sense that an unsubstantiated claim that he was given money from a school that we are very much on the same financial plane as.

UCF plays in a 48,000 capacity stadium built in 2007. They average 15,000 less fans than us per game. And we are really convinced they have some booster network that we don't have that's throwing bags of cash at a 4* recruit?

And even if the kid does get paid under legal NIL circumstances (which I'm pretty sure he didn't), good for him. Get your money. If we can't figure out a way to compete with that, it's on us.
 
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Clonefan32 said:
There are literally dozens of possibilities short of "BAGZ OF CA$H" for why this kid changed his mind. Maybe Malzhan showed more interest after the ratings bump. Maybe he had people in his life push UCF. Maybe he decided he wanted to stay close to home. Maybe it was the Campbell leaving rumors. Who knows? But all of those things make more practical sense that an unsubstantiated claim that he was given money from a school that we are very much on the same financial plane as.

UCF plays in a 48,000 capacity stadium built in 2007. They average 15,000 less fans than us per game. And we are really convinced they have some booster network that we don't have that's throwing bags of cash at a 4* recruit?
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No one said bags of cash. Straw man arguments are pretty bad.

And we don’t have the donor network that has ever stepped up in a meaningful way to support the AD.
 
Clonefan32 said:
Wait, you mean to tell me that there will be a dozen or so teams at an extreme financial advantage in college football of all places? My God, the horror!

Man, I have no idea how we will find a way to compete no longer being on the same pedestal as Alabama, Ohio State and Texas in terms of financial resources.
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Oof, you’re really not getting it. Think much lower with where our pedestal will be.
 
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Why doesn't ISU have more donors? It's an Ag School. Where are all the multi-millionaire farmers with ties to ISU? Please don't respond with ANF-GO HAWKS!
 
They've somehow come up with money to do tens of millions worth of renovations and upgrades to the Jack and the Athletic Performance Center. We've managed to come up with enough money to keep Campbell around. But all the sudden you don't think we can drum up enough money to compete with UCF? Please. I just don't understand this concept that you think other similarly situated schools are flushed with big donors that we don't have, especially as we've committed millions and millions of dollars to football upgrades over the last 10 years.

Again, kid from Florida had a change of heart and decided to stay in Florida. Leave it at that.
 
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Clonefan32 said:
So someone hasn't quite explained to me yet why notable football power house UCF can offer NIL money and we can't....?
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UCF has a giant enrollment, so it's not crazy to think they have big $ boosters. That said, who knows if that's the reason. He might have just had a change of heart and wanted to stay close to home.
 
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Cyinthenorth said:
Why doesn't ISU have more donors? It's an Ag School. Where are all the multi-millionaire farmers with ties to ISU? Please don't respond with ANF-GO HAWKS!
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Millions of $$$ in farm revenue and equipment does not means millions in income/profits, unfortunately
 
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They've somehow come up with money to do tens of millions worth of renovations and upgrades to the Jack and the Athletic Performance Center. We've managed to come up with enough money to keep Campbell around. But all the sudden you don't think we can drum up enough money to compete with UCF? Please. I just don't understand this concept that you think other similarly situated schools are flushed with big donors that we don't have, especially as we've committed millions and millions of dollars to football upgrades over the last 10 years.

Again, kid from Florida had a change of heart and decided to stay in Florida. Leave it at that.
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Do you even understand that they financed all of these renovations and upgrades based on projected revenues
 
Coach is leaving! Maybe, probably not.
NIL!!!! Maybe, probably not.
Florida kid staying in Florida with a new P5 Big 12 Florida team? Probably.

Not saying there shouldn't be angst about #2 (I feel it is going to **** us bad) but it's not maybe the big reason for this one.
 
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