Xavier Townsend decommits

[Die4Cy]

I don’t see how people didn’t see this happening. This is the legal version of the old southwest conference. Ad boosters are gonna pay to bring in the best players they can afford. 5 star culture is cool, but it’s not gonna take you very far.

i would love the see the deal Ewers got to go back to Texas.

It isn't that we didn't think it would go this route, everyone expected it to. That's why the NCAA's anti-NIL regs were there in the first place. But there will be a necessary regulatory response in the interest of competitiveness or college football just goes away in its current form.

 

[Clonefan32]

I love how we automatically jump to NIL and "worried about Campbell leaving." I get a kick out of people pretending like there's some abundance of NIL cash waiting for a 4 star recruit that wouldn't be available here. How much NIL money do you think is sitting out there for a 4 star recruit that's pretty dime-a-dozen at a blueblood?

Also, as for the "Campbell leaving" stuff, you don't think that was there when he committed? If anything I'd be more assured Campbell will be here with a good half dozen major jobs coming open and him not taking any of them. And if the past month has taught us anything I'm not sure there isn't a coach in America who isn't a few million dollars away from leaving their job.

I'd imagine what happened was when he committed his recruitment wasn't as hot and now that he has the ratings bump he has a lot more options open to him that he wants to consider. Or he just wants to stay close to home. It doesn't always have to be something nefarious.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I believe the UofT is offering amount similar to ISU, as agreed upon by the B12. This is a private entity offering the $50K per year.

What?

 

[Cyclones1969]

I love how we automatically jump to NIL and "worried about Campbell leaving." I get a kick out of people pretending like there's some abundance of NIL cash waiting for a 4 star recruit that wouldn't be available here. How much NIL money do you think is sitting out there for a 4 star recruit that's pretty dime-a-dozen at a blueblood?

Also, as for the "Campbell leaving" stuff, you don't think that was there when he committed? If anything I'd be more assured Campbell will be here with a good half dozen major jobs coming open and him not taking any of them. And if the past month has taught us anything I'm not sure there isn't a coach in America who isn't a few million dollars away from leaving their job.

I'd imagine what happened was when he committed his recruitment wasn't as hot and now that he has the ratings bump he has a lot more options open to him that he wants to consider. Or he just wants to stay close to home. It doesn't always have to be something nefarious.

He committed to UCF, one of his original visits, and they had been selected to join the big 12 at that time.

i don’t blame Him for taking a better deal.

 

[Clonefan32]

Let's pretend UCF did present him with a bag of cash for a commitment (which I don't think they did), are you really going to pretend that exact same thing wouldn't have happened 2 years ago at this time? You really don't think people were trying to sway committed players to their program with money pre-NIL?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Let's pretend UCF did present him with a bag of cash for a commitment (which I don't think they did), are you really going to pretend that exact same thing wouldn't have happened 2 years ago at this time? You really don't think people were trying to sway committed players to their program with money pre-NIL?

Just gonna get worse out in the open.

 

[Clonefan32]

:: 18 year old kid from Florida changes his mind and decides to stay in Florida and commit to a pretty marginal program with no documented history of cheating and no actual proof of any impropriety ::

"See I told you NIL was going to ruin football!"

 

[MisterO]

Whoa- let’s get back off the ledge for a second. Yes, losing a talented player like XT sucks, however, one player does not make a class. We still have lots of talented guys who actually want to be here- that should be our focus.

Second, nobody knows why this kid backed out. Maybe he wanted to be close to home, maybe Breece is coming back and he knew he wouldn’t play (haha)…point is, we don’t know. I see this at the company I run- people quit for all sorts of reasons and I used to let it bother me. Then I started focusing on the folks that actually want to be here and it made all the difference. These are 17/18 year-old kids- it’s good to keep that in perspective and remember when you were 18. These kids are no different.

Finally, don’t go after CMC over this. CMC is the best thing that ever happened to us and he’s won a lot more with a lot less than XT- that isn’t going to change. Sometimes kids leave and CMC can’t control all of it. Get behind our coaches or at least say nothing. Let CMC do his job- good moments and bad.

 

[CyJack13]

I suppose there will eventually be an NIL / Non-NIL split in the current FBS. The greedy programs (like OU and Texas) will spin off from every conference and be their own divison. When that happens, I will no longer have any interest in those teams or that semi-pro division (including Alabama).

Let's Go State!

It’s so annoying that so much of our fan base sees ourselves as losers who can’t possibly compete. There’s a whole lot of other schools out there besides the Bama’s, Ohio St’s and Texases of the world. No reason we can’t compete with the next tier of schools for recruits and actually try to make the NIL rules work for us.

 

[awd4cy]

The overwhelming attitude on this board was pro NIL.

Which is sad. I can say I was never pro NIL.

 

[awd4cy]

It’s so annoying that so much of our fan base sees ourselves as losers who can’t possibly compete. There’s a whole lot of other schools out there besides the Bama’s, Ohio St’s and Texases of the world. No reason we can’t compete with the next tier of schools for recruits and actually try to make the NIL rules work for us.

Here’s the thing, can we really compete with the Iowa’s, Wisconsin’s, Nebraska’s of college football going forward with NIL? Those schools have much larger donors and will generate far more money than us with the new landscape of conferences. It’s going to be significant.

 

[brett108]

Our boosters need to step up here. We should have NIL deals in place for every recruit.

Always easy to spend someone else's money. we cant compete with the big programs in NIL. All the ISU fans that said that things wouldn't change were morons.

 

[awd4cy]

I love how we automatically jump to NIL and "worried about Campbell leaving." I get a kick out of people pretending like there's some abundance of NIL cash waiting for a 4 star recruit that wouldn't be available here. How much NIL money do you think is sitting out there for a 4 star recruit that's pretty dime-a-dozen at a blueblood?

Also, as for the "Campbell leaving" stuff, you don't think that was there when he committed? If anything I'd be more assured Campbell will be here with a good half dozen major jobs coming open and him not taking any of them. And if the past month has taught us anything I'm not sure there isn't a coach in America who isn't a few million dollars away from leaving their job.

I'd imagine what happened was when he committed his recruitment wasn't as hot and now that he has the ratings bump he has a lot more options open to him that he wants to consider. Or he just wants to stay close to home. It doesn't always have to be something nefarious.

The problem for us won’t be beating out the Alabama’s and Georgia’s for 4 star guys. It’s going to be beating out the Iowa’s, Wisconsin’s, and Michigan States of college football. The separation from the Big 12 and the Big 10 and SEC is going to grow big time.

 

[brett108]

It’s so annoying that so much of our fan base sees ourselves as losers who can’t possibly compete. There’s a whole lot of other schools out there besides the Bama’s, Ohio St’s and Texases of the world. No reason we can’t compete with the next tier of schools for recruits and actually try to make the NIL rules work for us.

Remember when we were trying to win Big 12 titles and beat OU? And now your saying "don't worry we can be the best JV squad in the land". That is the exact problem with NIL,. It absolutely takes schools out of the running for national success. Schools like ours.

 

[Cloneon]

Remember when we were trying to win Big 12 titles and beat OU? And now your saying "don't worry we can be the best JV squad in the land". That is the exact problem with NIL,. It absolutely takes schools out of the running for national success. Schools like ours.

Take enough schools out and the product itself fails. The collaboration of teams will/must put limits and statutes around NIL.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Remember when we were trying to win Big 12 titles and beat OU? And now your saying "don't worry we can be the best JV squad in the land". That is the exact problem with NIL,. It absolutely takes schools out of the running for national success. Schools like ours.

It doesn’t if boosters step up, and give the proper mechanisms the tools to compete.

Problem is, that’s never ever happened at Iowa State

 

[Clonefan32]

So someone hasn't quite explained to me yet why notable football power house UCF can offer NIL money and we can't....?

 

[JRE1975]

Most people on this board were pro NIL. Start writing checks everyone. Put your money and your mouth where your attitudes are.....

If you think it's a good thing then please contribute.

CGC would be the perfect vehicle. Make a donation and request it to be earmarked for NIL payments.

It really is simple.

Gridiron Club is part of the Foundation, which is considered part of the University, which means it can have nothing to do with NIL.

We would have to start a new organization, or charity.

There will be rules developed soon to calm down the chaos, and we can only assume that blanket payments to a whole team, or group of players, or any other pay to play programs will not be allowed. Then the question will be enforcement, which is going to have to come from whatever new P5 group that going to replace the NCAA.

Relax, we will have a good class, and over the next year as CMC develops the 2023 class, some leaders in the donor class may need to decide what we need to do to be competitive with the teams at our level for the players CMC likes, if anything.

 

[paysclone]

First line is spot on. All he had to do was shut down the rumors. Heck the coaching carousel is pretty much over and still haven't heard a peep.

College football carousel is pretty much over. NFL is about to begin. That doesn't mean CMC to NFL but NFL might want OSU's Day.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Take enough schools out and the product itself fails. The collaboration of teams will/must put limits and statutes around NIL.

Ultimately the caste system will take over and we get to the top 32-48 teams that will have the resources in place to compete financially, and the rest will play at their own level