Why did the Big 10 pick Nebby?

[ronss]

well , for starters, big 10 commissioner delany, has been a big nebraska fan that has dated back 21 yrs. in the regents meeting on friday, he state he was impressed with the football program over the years,and he remembers the fabulous johnny rodgers. he had wished nebraska would have joined the big 10 back then. his wish came true friday when nebraska joined the conferance 21 yrs later. the big 10 vote was unaminious , all schools vote yes , as did the regents..its was a yes , yes move

colorado bolted from the big 10, and they not leave just because they wanted to ...they must have had reasons, and nebraska probably talked to them before they left..

nobody wanted to submit to a stable conferance for the next few decades, so that told you some schools had thoughts of defecting. some schools did not want to contract to a position of stability

there must have been problems with revenue shariing, or some did not like the way it was being done

all the activities of the big 12 was being done in texas

rough housing by texas

getting beat by texas

the texas vs nebraska game last year was sort of the nail in the coffin, or had a lot to do with it....when everyone thought the game was over and nu won it, and the officials put a second back on the clock so texas could kick a field goal...it was a bad call as i saw it..

the big ten network

conferance re-alignment is the now and hear,,,,,its not just going to be nu and colorado moving around...many more schools will

tv networks forming

 

[Rods79]

So here is a question...NU had to apply to the Big Ten (I realize there were discussions behind the scene, which would ensure a favorable outcome)...can any school apply to the Big Ten? What is to keep other schools from just applying?

 

[CF_Cyclone]

Their fans will watch the BTN=money.
Their large fan base will watch Neb games on TV=money
I think the BTN is everywhere, it is just on diffenent tiers in differnet places.

I am not buying that NU brings TV money when you look at the number of viewers that watched the Holiday Bowl against Arizona was 15th on the list of bowls, right behind the Liberty Bowl match up between TV power houses East Carolina and Arkansas. Even the Big 12 is only accounting for Nebraska as 8.6% of there TV viewership, which is what they are using to sell the save the Big 12 with 10 teams.

 

[baller21]

So here is a question...NU had to apply to the Big Ten (I realize there were discussions behind the scene, which would ensure a favorable outcome)...can any school apply to the Big Ten? What is to keep other schools from just applying?

By jove I think you've got it! ISU need only apply to the Big Ten and all is solved!

 

[el tornado]

that was the goal of Texas. And their end game in destroying and bring the conference to their knees was to bleed more money out of the deal, and gain even more power.

Which looks to be happening.

Disagree. You've been bad-mouthing Texas for several posts, are you secretly Tom Osborne?

Texas would have loved to have the Big 12 stay intact with Nebraska in the conference.
Nebraska chose to leave for more money and by doing so, screw every other Big 12 school. How can you argue that?

 

[Cyclone42]

The Big 10 did not take Nebraska. Nebraska asked to leave. Big difference.

I don't think so. I've been thinking about this. Tom Osborn only takes calculated risks. Don't attempt a 4th down unless you really have to, or are within inches of getting it, for example. I really doubt very much that TO would have started sending out indicators that he was seriously considering leaving the Big 12 unless he had already received solid unofficial indications from the Big 10 that they would take him if he left. I doubt he would have taken any risk of being left 'out in the cold' by leaving the Big 12 and not being picked up by the Big 10.

 

[tm3308]

I haven't followed much of what you have written in the past, but I will bet any amount that you were one of those hawk fans that went from board to board defending the program when they had all of those arrests, even though they had a ridiculous amount of them.

You were that hawk fan weren't you?

First off, what does that string of arrests have to do with conference expansion? Absolutely nothing. And second: the ones that committed serious crimes (the credit card business) were suspeneded indefinitely and subsequently dismissed. The ones in the rape case were also dismissed. And Kirk Ferentz did not participate in a cover-up, don't even think about spitting out that garbage.

The vast majority of the arrests were of public intox, PAULA, etc. I don't condone those actions, either, but college kids and drinking is hardly exclusive to the University of Iowa.

 

[Stormin]

Hard feelings between Nebraska and Texas. That Conference Championship game was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Nebraska has always been against revenue sharing. That was NOT the issue.

The issue was that Texas was the most powerful team in the Big XII. So Nebraska was in a tiff. The Big Ten saw a chance to add a pretty decent football program while bolstering the Western Division (which was weak) of the Big Ten. At the same time they can deliver a kidney punch to the Big XII which might destroy them and increase the power of the Big Ten in the future.

I think it was wise of Nebraska to join the Big Ten. Nebraska's value though to the Big Ten in terms of TV sets and their "national appeal" is a bit overstated. The Callahan Era took a toll on the national following of the Huskers. The hard core fans are still there. The bandwagon fans have long left. Just like the Miami Hurricane fans, Washington Husky fans, Colorado fans, Michigan fans, etc., etc. The Huskers were really, really good for a long time, so they had a lot of bandwagon fans. Now those many bandwagon fans are few.

 

[moo-u]

I think you've forgotten where you are. Go back to what ever hole you crawled
out of, -please-. If you want to use the black and gold" formula of determining
what is garbage THERE, fine and dandy.

But here? Nope.

The FACT is that KF instructed players to occupy a room that he had every
reason to believe was a crime scene. (rape is considered a crime right?) Now,
in YOUR hole maybe that isn't covering a crime, but to me, and the folks that
I know (that use logic in decision-making) that is EXACTLY what we call it.

First off, what does that string of arrests have to do with conference expansion? Absolutely nothing. And second: the ones that committed serious crimes (the credit card business) were suspeneded indefinitely and subsequently dismissed. The ones in the rape case were also dismissed. And Kirk Ferentz did not participate in a cover-up, don't even think about spitting out that garbage.

The vast majority of the arrests were of public intox, PAULA, etc. I don't condone those actions, either, but college kids and drinking is hardly exclusive to the University of Iowa.

 

[tm3308]

I think you've forgotten where you are. Go back to what ever hole you crawled
out of, -please-. If you want to use the black and gold" formula of determining
what is garbage THERE, fine and dandy.

But here? Nope.

The FACT is that KF instructed players to occupy a room that he had every
reason to believe was a crime scene. (rape is considered a crime right?) Now,
in YOUR hole maybe that isn't covering a crime, but to me, and the folks that
I know (that use logic in decision-making) that is EXACTLY what we call it.

The number one question about the case and the victim's (and her mother's) complaints is why didn't she report it to the police? Just because UI administration allegedly advised her to take care of things informally doesn't mean she had to. I know if I were a girl and were a rape victim, the first people I report it to would not be the university.

And again, this topic has NOTHING to do with Nebraska and the Big Ten. But the fact that it was dragged up unnecessarily shows what kind of tool that at least one of the fans here are.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Hard feelings between Nebraska and Texas. That Conference Championship game was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Nebraska has always been against revenue sharing. That was NOT the issue.

The issue was that Texas was the most powerful team in the Big XII. So Nebraska was in a tiff. The Big Ten saw a chance to add a pretty decent football program while bolstering the Western Division (which was weak) of the Big Ten. At the same time they can deliver a kidney punch to the Big XII which might destroy them and increase the power of the Big Ten in the future.

I think it was wise of Nebraska to join the Big Ten. Nebraska's value though to the Big Ten in terms of TV sets and their "national appeal" is a bit overstated. The Callahan Era took a toll on the national following of the Huskers. The hard core fans are still there. The bandwagon fans have long left. Just like the Miami Hurricane fans, Washington Husky fans, Colorado fans, Michigan fans, etc., etc. The Huskers were really, really good for a long time, so they had a lot of bandwagon fans. Now those many bandwagon fans are few.

You're right - revenue sharing isn't the issue with Nebraska. It's just what makes them look absolutely hypocritical in laying all the blame of the destruction of the conference at Texas' feet as well as claiming that suddenly all of the other North teams are disloyal to the cause. For 14 years Nebraska didn't give two ****s about loyalty to the North teams and were part of a voting alliance with Texas to keep the larger revenues amongst themselves. What really torqued off Nebraska was the 11-1 vote to keep the football championship in the JerryDome for the indefinite future in exchange for keeping the basketball tournament in Kansas City. Not only are greater revenues generated with having that game in Dallas, but the North generally having the better basketball schools got what they really wanted. Well, except for Nebraska. They finally got a taste of what it's been like for the rest of the North schools over the last decade+, and they didn't like it. They could have shown "loyalty" just once with the rest of the North schools and voted for a more fair revenue sharing program. Yeah, we're only talking about a few more million per year, but that's huge when some of the "haves" are making twice as much in conference revenues as Iowa State is.

And no, I don't just blame Nebraska, and I don't just blame Texas. While Texas' greed certainly is one of the things that destroyed this conference and Nebraska certainly is hypocritical for expecting loyalty from schools they haven't shown loyalty for nearly a decade and a half, the rest of the Big 8 schools are to blame as well for enabling such behaviors by giving the "haves" far too much power in the first place. For example, everyone should have seen the writing on the wall when the conference headquarters were moved from Kansas City to Dallas...

 

[moo-u]

the hand. see it? my hand.

nobody else cares what you've got, so talk to the hand.

The number one question about the case and the victim's (and her mother's) complaints is why didn't she report it to the police? Just because UI administration allegedly advised her to take care of things informally doesn't mean she had to. I know if I were a girl and were a rape victim, the first people I report it to would not be the university.

And again, this topic has NOTHING to do with Nebraska and the Big Ten. But the fact that it was dragged up unnecessarily shows what kind of tool that at least one of the fans here are.

 

[SC Cy]

I saw a fantastic cartoon drawing last week. It had a tiny herbie husker running away from a Mt. Rushmore-type mountain of Texas and Oklahoma. The shadow completely engulfed herbie. As he is running away he is muttering "Good thing the grass is ALWAYS greener..." Way off in the distance, in the direction herbie is running, is a four-headed mountain with Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin.

Good luck, nebraska.

 

[Wesley]

By jove I think you've got it! ISU need only apply to the Big Ten and all is solved!

Is the fee $50?

 

[Clark]

So here is a question...NU had to apply to the Big Ten (I realize there were discussions behind the scene, which would ensure a favorable outcome)...can any school apply to the Big Ten? What is to keep other schools from just applying?

As far as I can tell anyone can apply. There's still the small matter of haveing the eight votes to be accepted though.:wink: