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When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 70 8.0%

  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 0.8%

  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 161 18.3%

  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 189 21.5%

  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 452 51.4%
  • Total voters
    879
twojman said:
We won't see stuff like this here for awhile unless the United States wants to change their ways and get back into the technology business. BYD is basically banned here due to massive tariffs.

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Yes, we're all aware how many tariffs are added to Chinese vehicles coming to the U.S., and I support these tariffs 100%. Lets look at the EU for guidance.
Consumers got cheaper cars, but the legacy manufacturing workforce is taking a massive hit

European unions and workers didn't wake up until it was too late. Companies like Volkswagen are now cutting tens of thousands of jobs and closing German factories because they simply cannot compete with Chinese costs. To stop the bleeding, they added a tarrif, so then Chinese companies started building them in low cost EU countries, and workers made a LOT less. Labor costs in Germany at BMW and VW are around $65/hour. BYD in Hungary is $15/hour. Or they build 90% of the car in China, and the last 10% in Austria to bypass the tarrifs.

I agree that U.S. and Japanese auto-makers needs to catch up quickly.

BTW-The Tesla Model Y is the 3rd most sold vehicle in China in 2025 without any government help. On a side note, BYD's top models made up 4th and 5th place.
 
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Technology is solving the charging/convenience issue. I wonder what people were saying 110 years ago about having to find gas stations rather than taking their horse out to get some place.

EVs are going win, ICE vehicles are legacy. Being anti-EV now is like preferring horses over ICE vehicles in 1915. This is whether or not the US wants to embrace it or not. We can be on the forefront or behind....right now we are WAY behind.
 
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flycy said:
So you're buying Chinese propaganda now?
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It's not propaganda. China is way ahead in technology and they're in most markets outside of the US. BYD would outsell Tesla by a large margin in the US if it weren't for the 100% tariff.
 
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TitanClone said:
It's not propaganda. China is way ahead in technology and they're in most markets outside of the US. BYD would outsell Tesla by a large margin in the US if it weren't for the 100% tariff.
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The Tesla model y sells more in China than any BYD Model.
 
IcSyU said:
I'm surprised the average mileage is that high honestly.

And shocked that 61% never go over 50 miles!
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As somebody in the prime of my driving kids around phase of I spend a lot of time behind the wheel but probably only drive 25 miles or so a day.
 
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motorcy90 said:
this **** is just hilarious. congrats on your 240 miles of range in 30+ min of charging. my 1/2 truck towing a trailer did better then that even, though it's hilarious for you to admit your range anxiety here for all. I can stop anywhere and get 300+ miles of range in 5 min. can you do the same?
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I too have a Subaru Solterra. Yes, highway driving it kinda sucks and you really have to plan ahead. In the city of Des Moines, however, it is great. My wife drives it all over the metro for work and has a free charger at her office that she uses most of the time. I spend very little on that car.
 
motorcy90 said:
it's just hilarious how limited EVs are still but those who could probably use a bicycle really think they are the end all be all currently. I am seriously considering a Ram REV/Ramcharger or even the International Terra with the range extender. but would need them to be able to run a snow plow set up still too.
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The range extender would be a great addition.
 
dmclone said:
Yes, it surprising that AAA says 29.1 and FHWA says 37.

AAA Methodolgy
were asked to report basic information about allof the travel that they did on the day before theinterview. Approximately 5,100 participants wereinterviewed each year, with interviews spreadapproximately evenly over all days of the year.

FHWA methodolgy
To arrive at that number, the agency compiles input from every state’s highway department, combining traffic-counter readings, fuel-use records, odometer surveys, and household travel data.

Regardless of which study you look at, a 400+ mile range is unecesarry. This would be like a person requiring 12 radio presets in their car, and only using 5 of them for 360 days a year. The other 5 days, they have to manually turn the knob.
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To bring this to practical terms. 29-37 miles a day can easily be covered with a level one charger overnight, or plug it in over weekend and rarely charge during week. Talking vast majority of EVs, maybe full size trucks can’t get 25-40 miles of range added overnight with level one.

Then level 2 this is showing plug in one night a week to cover week.

Level 2 chargers are great but it’s really the people going well above 50 miles a day who truly need it.
 
twojman said:
Technology is solving the charging/convenience issue. I wonder what people were saying 110 years ago about having to find gas stations rather than taking their horse out to get some place.

EVs are going win, ICE vehicles are legacy. Being anti-EV now is like preferring horses over ICE vehicles in 1915. This is whether or not the US wants to embrace it or not. We can be on the forefront or behind....right now we are WAY behind.
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My go-to is always streaming vs video rental store. Nobody thought going to Blockbuster was some huge inconvenience until they started streaming. They just didn’t know.

In the same way people don’t realize fueling a car away from their own garage is inconvenient.
 
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dmclone said:
Yes, we're all aware how many tariffs are added to Chinese vehicles coming to the U.S., and I support these tariffs 100%. Lets look at the EU for guidance.
Consumers got cheaper cars, but the legacy manufacturing workforce is taking a massive hit

European unions and workers didn't wake up until it was too late. Companies like Volkswagen are now cutting tens of thousands of jobs and closing German factories because they simply cannot compete with Chinese costs. To stop the bleeding, they added a tarrif, so then Chinese companies started building them in low cost EU countries, and workers made a LOT less. Labor costs in Germany at BMW and VW are around $65/hour. BYD in Hungary is $15/hour. Or they build 90% of the car in China, and the last 10% in Austria to bypass the tarrifs.

I agree that U.S. and Japanese auto-makers needs to catch up quickly.

BTW-The Tesla Model Y is the 3rd most sold vehicle in China in 2025 without any government help. On a side note, BYD's top models made up 4th and 5th place.
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What does Tesla pay their Chinese gigafactory workers?
 
simply1 said:
That will be interesting to watch, aren’t they down 25% in China? 10% tax incentive also disappeared at year end.
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My earlier post addresses some of this. Tesla was down 9% YoY and BYD was up over 28%. These are both worldwide numbers. US seems to be actively hindering anything related to electric motors and storage, not a good thing when that is what is going to be the entire future. This would be like trying to keep the horse trade alive in 1915 and doing every thing possible to stop internal combustible engine (ICE) vehicles from getting out to the public.

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If you want to look at a certain model, maybe you are right. One brand seems to be in growth mode worldwide and another is shrinking...
 
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