Pollard wont take anyone that challanges him or isnt an alter boy.
What to do with Coach Prohm Poll..
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No way ANYONE with any kind of ethics and morals will take Sampson. He's screwed up multiple times and should never be given another chance at a P5 school.
CycloneErik
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The rules that were broken when he was a coach at OU are no longer NCAA violations. Plus he has been back coaching now and everything is fine. He would be a big time hire. But I doubt Pollard would pay the money needed to hire someone like him or Beilein
CycloneErik
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I like that phone calls count as dirty to these people, even when, as you say, that's not a rules violation now.
To be big time, you gotta bring in talented coaches, not just cheap coaches.
Sampson wins. We need that.
Sure, there are other options, too. Just make sure it's a winning option, and don't act like phone calls are some test of morality.
That's irrelevant. They were violations and it's his responsibility to be on top of that.
Indiana then came along and he got busted doing THE VERY SAME THING there. Are some of you guys to young to remember? He's unethical at best and a moron at worst. It's not like he screwed up once and was on the straight and narrow, the 2nd time he did so after already being reprimanded.
No thanks.
Well, we have a boyscout and how is that going for us?
CycloneErik
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Plus Fred did the same thing and we totally handwaived it. Of all the things to do wrong, I'm just not going to care about excessive phone calls.
That said we're not hiring him for many reasons, mostly his buyout and the salary he would require.
Indiana's Kelvin Sampson: "Fool Me Once, Shame on You; Fool Me Twice..."
In an era full of controversy and scandals in professional sports, one would suspect that athletes, coaches, and all those involved in the world of athletics would learn how to follow the rules...
Fool me once? Shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me. Fool me three times? Shame on CycloneErik.
It's not even about the FIRST time. He got fired, with cause, from OU then goes to Indiana and does the same exact ******* thing he did at OU. Indiana was stupid for hiring him in the first place, so I don't exactly feel for them, but in knowingly committing the SAME INFRACTIONS twice, he not only showed how stupid/unethical he was it got Indiana sanctioned.
I mean, if you owned a company and caught an employee watching porn, gave them a warning, and caught them doing the SAME thing again (and summarily fired them) would you tell your buddy to hire the guy? This isn't a hard concept to understand.
CycloneErik
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Indiana's Kelvin Sampson: "Fool Me Once, Shame on You; Fool Me Twice..."
In an era full of controversy and scandals in professional sports, one would suspect that athletes, coaches, and all those involved in the world of athletics would learn how to follow the rules...bleacherreport.com
Fool me once? Shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me. Fool me three times? Shame on CycloneErik.
It's not even about the FIRST time. He got fired, with cause, from OU then goes to Indiana and does the same exact ******* thing he did at OU. Indiana was stupid for hiring him in the first place, so I don't exactly feel for them, but in knowingly committing the SAME INFRACTIONS twice, he not only showed how stupid/unethical he was it got Indiana sanctioned.
I mean, if you owned a company and caught an employee watching porn, gave them a warning, and caught them doing the SAME thing again (and summarily fired them) would you tell your buddy to hire the guy? This isn't a hard concept to understand.
It was a ******** rule. It's not a thing now.
@BryceC mentioned that Pollard won't do it for the cost, and he's right about that.
If you'd say no because of phone calls, you deserve the losing that brings.
I'm not saying we have to hire a church-going, "super nice" guy. I just don't want a guy here who has repeatedly shown he isn't smart enough to quit committing (known) NCAA violations after being caught, and fired for the SAME violations.
I can't even believe some of you WANT Sampson, let alone are trying to defend it. Unreal.
Do you have reading comprehension issues?
He KNEW they were violations at the time and did so anyway. Committing known violations jeopardizes the programs, school, and the kids involved with it. It compromises the hard work of many for the personal gain and glory for the few. But let's just say the first round of phone calls were no big deal for argument's sake.
Okay, now that we have that understanding Sampson went to a new school, KNOWING he was under watchful eye and going to be scrutinized. Any cogent individual would recognize this and be on the straight and narrow. But now Sampson. He goes to Indiana and gets caught doing THE SAME thing he did at OU in his FIRST YEAR. I mean, how ******* stupid can he be? And how stupid could some here be for even wanting the guy.
Whatever. Let's bring him here then ***** about it in 3 years when he get caught doing something else that's braindead and completely stupid.
10 seasons as P6 assistant plus just as much success as a HC (preISU for Prohm)....this is Prohm's first paid job at a p6 school. TJ spent time on the bench at ISU and Washington, Steve was an assistant at Centenary, SE Louisiana and Murray. Not even really comparable.
CycloneErik
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I am about 60% sure i could run a better offensive scheme than prohm does so ill take the job, give me 1 mil a year, and im sure i could finish in last place 3 out of 5 years and really save the school money.
