No it was definitely the Keshon play where the guy bumped him and reached also raking his arm. Keshon was called for less than that like 2 possessions prior.
What is with the Refs?
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Also interesting because ISU would have more fouls earlier each half and to the bonus quicker which definitely affects the game. Both shot 24 FTs I think but still felt completely one sided in stretches
I haven't read anyone comment on Gilbert getting called for travelling today. He was clearly guilty of the one blatant double dribble. However, I thought the ref's were calling Gilbert's "euro-steps" in a way that they haven't been all season. Makes me wonder if this came from the Big 12, from the ref's themselves, or from the TTU coaches.
Two missed calls by refs on us:
There was a trap where 5 seconds was called.
Dishon got their arm before the whistle.
There was a blocking call on them when it should have been a charge on us.
One that I question:
I didn't love the call on Keshon with the forearm on offense 5ft from rim. It didn't seem too egregious to me.
There was a trap where 5 seconds was called.
Dishon got their arm before the whistle.
There was a blocking call on them when it should have been a charge on us.
One that I question:
I didn't love the call on Keshon with the forearm on offense 5ft from rim. It didn't seem too egregious to me.
Anybody complaining about the missed travel call on Jefferson's play that sent the game to OT?
I'll bet they are in Lubbock!
I'll bet they are in Lubbock!
I just watched the highlights on Cyclones.com and there were probably 8 plays that could have been called and-one but weren’t.
We got a couple in our favor, but they easily got more.
We got a couple in our favor, but they easily got more.
There were a few head scratchers for me in this game:
-Gilbert gets a traveling call even though it wasn’t. The next possession the dude from TT shuffles his feet and walks without a traveling call.
-Jefferson get called for a foul after the guy on TT spins and loses the ball. You can see from the replay the TT guy had already lost the ball well before making any contact with Jefferson. Jefferson barely grazed the guy. Horrible call.
-Gilbert gets bonked in either the chest or the chin and you can see his head go back. No foul was called there.
It was overall not a great officiating job. At the end of the day, we ended up winning a very tough road game against a good team that was hungry for blood with an extremely loud crowd behind them. We also have big guys that shoot free throws so clutch. You can bet with the big guys we had last year the game would not have gone to overtime since our free throw percentage was not good from our big men the past two seasons. Jefferson had ice water in his veins on those late game free throws.
-Gilbert gets a traveling call even though it wasn’t. The next possession the dude from TT shuffles his feet and walks without a traveling call.
-Jefferson get called for a foul after the guy on TT spins and loses the ball. You can see from the replay the TT guy had already lost the ball well before making any contact with Jefferson. Jefferson barely grazed the guy. Horrible call.
-Gilbert gets bonked in either the chest or the chin and you can see his head go back. No foul was called there.
It was overall not a great officiating job. At the end of the day, we ended up winning a very tough road game against a good team that was hungry for blood with an extremely loud crowd behind them. We also have big guys that shoot free throws so clutch. You can bet with the big guys we had last year the game would not have gone to overtime since our free throw percentage was not good from our big men the past two seasons. Jefferson had ice water in his veins on those late game free throws.
Each team shot 24 free throws - I thought the refs were fine.
Very easy to criticize with the benefit of slow mo and replays.
Very easy to criticize with the benefit of slow mo and replays.
I thought the five seconds elapsed before the foul even though it takes a moment for the ref to blow his whistle and raise his arm.
The stripes often use garbage-time to try to even out the box score on fouls and FTAs. Didn't happen yesterday of course because there was no garbage-time, I'm just speaking in generalities here. Lack of a large disparity in fouls and/or free throws is not an indicator of officiating quality.
Lots of apologists in this thread for professionals doing their job poorly. If I'm constantly making mistakes at my job because "well it's difficult" I still get disciplined/fired. Folks should watch more NBA to get a frame of reference. The refs there aren't perfect either but the quality and consistency is leaps and bounds better than NCAA.
I can’t believe this wasn’t mentioned in this thread until now.
I guess ref would say he was still gathering control of ball but this really was an egregious miss. Will take it.
It was an optical illusion.. the floor moved, it just looked like he took 4 steps ( best I could count). They seemed to do a "makeup call" for a travel on us early in OT (I think on Gilbert).
This is my main issue w modern officiating and inconsistency.
You will see ticky tack touch fouls called- the slightest touch on a shot, a little hand check, an extended arm that didnt actually move the defender back, etc. The "flashy" foul.
Then a guy gets bodied into the 2nd row, or knocked to the ground on a rebound, and its "play on". The "physical" foul.
Its just incoherent to me that the more physical and dangerous(ish) ones get a pass.
Oh i actually think JJeff never had control of the ball at all, no travel there, no issue.
The BIG thing on that was the extra half second they put on the clock. Otherwise that shot doesnt count. Of couse, it was the absolute right thing to do and they got it 100% right. But how often does that NOT get done correctly?
Not sure about never having control, but totally agree about the extra time, along with an incredible drive and dish by Lipsey. Kid has unbelievable instincts.
Did he? I don't recall him even touching the TT guy while falling. The next time he touched him was when the guy landed on top of him.
It should have been a no-call IMO.
I think part of it is how strong you move for the basket. We don't always make the most aggressive moves and that will not lend to getting the call as often. I do however think Tech was getting away with hand checks we never get the luxury of.
