Some interesting background stuff but man did it bounce all over the timelines and storylines. Woof!
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Seeing the background behind Delos and their investment was cool.
Kanye West music in tonight’s ep! This show has an amazing music selection.
Gus Fring! Giancarlo Esposito is such an amazing actor. Perfect for a Wild West villain role.
Kanye West music in tonight’s ep! This show has an amazing music selection.
Gus Fring! Giancarlo Esposito is such an amazing actor. Perfect for a Wild West villain role.
The story of each timeline was interesting, but the jumping back-and-forth was just too jarring and kind of killed the flow for me.
There was One thing that was glanced over, somewhat, in tonights episode that I think could be a major development later in the show. The meeting between Mave and Delores.
They are setting up the option of having 2 factions of Hosts fighting for a different end goal. Both want freedom, but Mave has an understanding that the humans can be helpful in her successes, whereas Delores just wants to kill them all. A confrontation/fight between two host parties could be a very interesting wrinkle into an already chaotic present day.
They are setting up the option of having 2 factions of Hosts fighting for a different end goal. Both want freedom, but Mave has an understanding that the humans can be helpful in her successes, whereas Delores just wants to kill them all. A confrontation/fight between two host parties could be a very interesting wrinkle into an already chaotic present day.
What's a timeline in this show. They seem to be telling the show in 3 different time periods, but I don't think they are even showing events sequentially within those time periods at times.
Exactly. In last nights episode alone they had for certain 3, but could have been more like 4 or 5 if you are going off of actual timestamps. Was the initial scene with Arnold and Delores moments before Logan gets shown that demonstration? How far after the scene of William showing his Father-In-Law Westworld was he with Delores showing her that "Weapon"? Was Logan shooting up during the party even after that? I think most can be assumed based on logic, but if there is one thing about this show I have learned there is always some sort of slight of hand going on.
I think at least 4, no?
(1) Pre-Westworld existence when some robots were built (Dolores and Angela) but the park was not built and Delos was being courted as investor.
(2) Westworld is built. William and his father-in-law plan to steal information from guests to leverage the value of the park. I assume that William has already been on his Season 1 trip with Logan and falls for Dolores. There is a scene where William wakes up Dolores and rips her. He also shows her some secret build in the park. Both his discussion with his FIL (in front of a "shut down" Dolores) and his showing Dolores the build will come back to be important as part of what Dolores now remembers.
(2a) Father Delos retires and we see that William, not Logan is the heir apparent. We have not been given the back story of how Logan got out of the park in Season 1, have we?
(3) Immediately following massacre of the Delos Board. Dolores is recruiting an army and preparing for invasion. Bernard and Charlotte are in secret bunker. I assume MIB (old William) is in this timeline with Lawrence, as is Maeve and her quest to find her "daughter".
(4) Approximately 2 weeks after massacre. Delos team has landed. Bernard is found on beach and they discover the hosts killed in the water. Teddy is dead in the water, but not Dolores. We have not seen what occurs in the 2 weeks in between.
I agree. I think any scene where William is a savvy business man was after his and Logan's first visit to the park that we saw. That's what he meant by telling Delores that she helped him find himself.
Long, Far-Out Theory: (somewhat spoilers, but nothing that is certain, just speculation)
I think Wiliams Father in Law is going to be a part of the "Deeper Meaning" of Westworld, that Bill and Delores keep bringing up.
I think Williams Father in Law somehow transfered his consciousness into bot form of some sort.(or something along those lines, still coming up with this theory.)
There was the scene of him and Will talking the first time he goes to west world. A line was brought up by the FiL about how, he doesn't care for this park because the benefits of the park wouldn't matter to him in 20 years because he'd be dead. We know that Will took over the company, so it can be assumed that FiL died at some point. Why is Will the only one who knows the "True Meaning"? My Assumption is, if Delores is talking about the same True Meaning that she was told by an old friend, then it is either Arnolds game for hosts to gain conciousness and eventually leave and take over the real world (which Arnold felt that the Hosts almost deserved more than real people, because they see the beauty in it). Or she is talking about the True Meaning that William knows, and he told her at some point along the way.
The only reason I think that the FiL could possibly have transferred his consciousness into a host, or into the park, somehow, was because of that ever-popping up photo of Arnold and Ford. There is a 3rd man in the middle of them that nobody talks in more detail about, and he looks relatively close to the FiL without a goatee. Was Abernathy the host that was created in memory/image of Will's FiL? Is that why he is such an important peice to the Delos team?
There are certainly some holes in this theory, but I seriously think there has to be something more to the Father in Law story and his footprint on Westworld.
add-on: This is also with me assuming that Ford was lying to Bernard last Season when he said that Arnold built that host family as a replica to his(Ford's) family. And was actually made by or for another co-creator/founder.
I think Wiliams Father in Law is going to be a part of the "Deeper Meaning" of Westworld, that Bill and Delores keep bringing up.
I think Williams Father in Law somehow transfered his consciousness into bot form of some sort.(or something along those lines, still coming up with this theory.)
There was the scene of him and Will talking the first time he goes to west world. A line was brought up by the FiL about how, he doesn't care for this park because the benefits of the park wouldn't matter to him in 20 years because he'd be dead. We know that Will took over the company, so it can be assumed that FiL died at some point. Why is Will the only one who knows the "True Meaning"? My Assumption is, if Delores is talking about the same True Meaning that she was told by an old friend, then it is either Arnolds game for hosts to gain conciousness and eventually leave and take over the real world (which Arnold felt that the Hosts almost deserved more than real people, because they see the beauty in it). Or she is talking about the True Meaning that William knows, and he told her at some point along the way.
The only reason I think that the FiL could possibly have transferred his consciousness into a host, or into the park, somehow, was because of that ever-popping up photo of Arnold and Ford. There is a 3rd man in the middle of them that nobody talks in more detail about, and he looks relatively close to the FiL without a goatee. Was Abernathy the host that was created in memory/image of Will's FiL? Is that why he is such an important peice to the Delos team?
There are certainly some holes in this theory, but I seriously think there has to be something more to the Father in Law story and his footprint on Westworld.
add-on: This is also with me assuming that Ford was lying to Bernard last Season when he said that Arnold built that host family as a replica to his(Ford's) family. And was actually made by or for another co-creator/founder.
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Interesting. Also might explain why Abernathy went crazy in Season 1. He was looking at a picture of his daughter.
It would be interesting to go through the cocktail party in slow motion. Abernathy was one of the original builds. Was he there in the room? Clementime and Angela were there. Dolores was not since Arnold told Ford that she was not ready.
The scene with him and Tony Hopkins in season one was epic.
Get him back in there.
All I was able to notice was Clementine and Angela as well. But that is a good point. Again, my theory has many loose ends, but I think there is something deeper there than just William taking over for his father in law and that is that.
Another theory I was told was that the man in black was actually a host also, that is why he has the personal game mapped out for him. But I think that is a stretch. Ford creating a specifc game for him is more likely the reasoning, but why did Ford want Bill to have this game? What is the end goal of the game?
God, so many questions to be answered already this season.
Holy hell. You might be on to something.
Is this the same girl?!
I think they pretty much established in Season 1 that the photo was William's fiance (Delos daughter).
Yes. They showed them (I think it was young William, but it might have been Logan) drop the photo in Season 1.Holy hell. You might be on to something.
Is this the same girl?!
I get this and the Black Sails theme stuck in my head a lot. Similar styled openings and both awesome music
